Gravity's Rainbow

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Started reading this the other day. It's basically Finnegans Wake but all in English so I have less of an excuse for my lack of comprehension.
wikipedia said:
Frequently digressive, the novel subverts many of the traditional elements of plot and character development, traverses detailed, specialist knowledge drawn from a wide range of disciplines, and has earned a reputation as a "difficult" book.
I messaged BWD first of course, but it looks like he's around about as often as I am. Him and I think Chromatose have read this one. Anyone else? It's effin' brilliant so far, although I can't exactly pinpoint why. Made me pick up Vineland again, which I dropped halfway through a bit over a year ago. That book is like Harry Potter - Book 2 by comparison. Also I now realize what an idiot I was to put that one down, it's pretty stellar.

Note: after 2 years with Finnegans Wake I'm about 11 pages in. FYI.
 
6 years and 35 pages.
It's like tortoise and the... tortoise!

That book winked at me once. I was a-poopin' while reading it for the first time, and when it came time to worsh me mits, I placed it on the back of the terlit to await my reaquaintance. Upon giggling at whatever the first paragraph was trying to tell me, I noticed the face on the cover started moving suspiciously. I have not laughed at that book since.
 
That's what's kept me away from Vineland, too many negative reviews.

Maybe if I had not yet read anything else of his, I'd give it a go... alas, I'll keep it further down in my Pynchon queue...

Read the first 50 pages of Mason & Dixon not too long ago, seems top notch, for sure. Was looking forward to picking up Against The Day, but I suppose I've save the latter for later.
 
ah nuts, I actually meant V., upon thinking about it.

I haven't read Vineland either, but I do hear that one frequently panned by the Pynchon "purists" for its linear style.
 
I'm not yet a Pynchon nutso, but I can recognize that Vineland is much simpler in style as compared to Gravity's Rainbow. However, I would hardly call it linear, it can be hard to tell if the given timeframe is the 80's, 70's, or 60's, as certain characters jump back and forth between the present, memories past, and flashbacks, oftentimes all within one page. Either way, it's funny and quite good. I was dumb to stop reading it, but now it's almost finished. Hooray!

Life of Pi is great. Afterwards, read some Salman Rushdie. Then don't forget Ali's cuz's book:

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Linear in the sense of a ... *gasp* ... plot, and from what I'm told it centers around a single character; A far cry from anything you'll get in Gravity's Rainbow. For example, while Tyrone Slothrop is perhaps the most prominent character in said novel, he is only one of many focii.

I am looking forward to reading Vineland, though. I hear it is chock-full of hilarity, and I find postmodern countercultural literature highly intriguing. Also considering the aspects contained therein of Pynchon's take on 1984, how can it go wrong?!

V. gets shit for being too ... unrefined? Pynchon not yet finding his voice, et al.
 
I am looking forward to reading Vineland, though. I hear it is chock-full of hilarity, and I find postmodern countercultural literature highly intriguing. Also considering the aspects contained therein of Pynchon's take on 1984, how can it go wrong?!
it's pretty good but somewhere around the middle it's kind of like

OKAY UM I DONT CARE MUCH ANYMORE and it comes back around the end. it's kind of opposite to most pynchon in that (for me at least) it sucked me in immediately and sorta left me dry in the middle. most of the time it's a huge effort to get past the first 300 pages and only then you realize you're reading the work of an absolute fucking genius and your brain melts and wow it feels great
 
"She turns. “Hold up my fur.” He obeys. “Be careful. Don’t touch my skin.”
Earlier in this game she was nervous, constipated, wondering if this was anything
like male impotence. But thoughtful Pointsman, anticipating this, has been
sending laxative pills with her meals. Now her intestines whine softly, and she
feels shit begin to slide down and out. He kneels with his arms up holding the rich
cape. A dark turd appears out the crevice, out of the absolute darkness between
her white buttocks. He spreads his knees, awkwardly, until he can feel the leather
of her boots. He leans forward to surround the hot turd with his lips, sucking on
it tenderly, licking along its lower side . . . he is thinking, he’s sorry, he can’t help
it, thinking of a Negro’s penis, yes he knows it abrogates part of the conditions
set, but it will not be denied, the image of a brute African who will make him
behave. . . . The stink of shit floods his nose, gathering him, surrounding. It is the
smell of Passchendaele, of the Salient. Mixed with the mud, and the putrefaction
of corpses, it was the sovereign smell of their first meeting, and her emblem. The
turd slides into his mouth, down to his gullet. He gags, but bravely clamps his
teeth shut. Bread that would only have floated in porcelain waters somewhere,
unseen, untasted—risen now and baked in the bitter intestinal Oven to bread we
know, bread that’s light as domestic comfort, secret as death in bed . . . Spasms in
his throat continue. The pain is terrible. With his tongue he mashes shit against
the roof of his mouth and begins to chew, thickly now, the only sound in the
room. . . ."
 
If Chromatose's sample didn't make you rush out and buy that book then I just don't know what will.

Did any of you Pynchon fans get into David Foster Wallace's work? It's not really doing him any justice to compare him to Pynchon, because he's completely different, but basically if you got into Gravity's then Infinite Jest would definately be worth a look. Just make sure you have about a month spare, with literally nothing else to do.

Sorry to dig up an old thread.