guitar DI

[reneisgod]

Heard different stories about this but is a DI essential before pluggins stright into a soundcard ? (playing through say guitar rig or revalver)

My soundcard is a delta Audiophile 2496 (4-In/4-Out Audio Card with MIDI and Digital I/O USD)

some people have told me a need to DI before going and some say i dont so im rather confused.

 

[TheStoryteller]

Heard different stories about this but is a DI essential before pluggins stright into a soundcard ? (playing through say guitar rig or revalver)

My soundcard is a delta Audiophile 2496 (4-In/4-Out Audio Card with MIDI and Digital I/O USD)

some people have told me a need to DI before going and some say i dont so im rather confused.

You will get sound without a DI, but if you want it to sound good you really need a DI.

 

[006]

Yes, a DI will make a big difference. Some interfaces (such as the RME FireFace, etc.) have instrument inputs already built-in, which are essentially just DI's, that you can plug your guitar/bass directly into and use a software emulator for monitoring. If your interface doesn't, a DI is "crucial", since if you will be reamping later you'll have a perfect signal to send to the unit and into the amp. A lot of people have used the Behringer DI with no complaints, it's a cheap solution and from user comments it works. For an "industry standard" DI box, look at Radial stuff, like the JDI or J48, both of which will run you $180US, in which case you'd still need another box to reamp with, Radial has the XAmp which is also $180US. Or you can check out the Little Labs RedEye which is a DI and reamp in one unit, for $225US. There are other options out there, just depends on how far your wallet can stretch.

~e.a

 

[006]

Btw Storyteller, I love your band dude,

~e.a

 

[TheStoryteller]

Btw Storyteller, I love your band dude,

Thanks man! We're on hiatus (I don't even know what the word means, but I read it on Blabbermouth so I assume it's correct, haha) right now, but we might be back in the future.

 

[JeffTD]

Hiatus:

–noun, plural -tus‧es, -tus.
1. a break or interruption in the continuity of a work, series, action, etc.

 

[TheStoryteller]

Well, there you go. An excellent word to describe our situation then.

 

[sparkyness]

"hiatus" is a word I only ever hear used in the context of bands. However, it usually means "we fucking hate our drummer but he owns the van and no of us can afford to buy another one."

 

[reneisgod]

see this is where it gets confusing i borrowed my freinds behringer ultra DI DI20
and im hearing no difference atall in sound quality, noise reduction
getting that exact same sound plugging stright in ?

the lead im using from my guitar to soundcard is a 1/4 jack to phono (1/4 at one end guitar and phono at the soundcard end)
would this have anything to do with it ?

but definetly no difference using the DI.

 

[~BURNY~]

see this is where it gets confusing i borrowed my freinds behringer ultra DI DI20
and im hearing no difference atall in sound quality, noise reduction
getting that exact same sound plugging stright in ?

the lead im using from my guitar to soundcard is a 1/4 jack to phono (1/4 at one end guitar and phono at the soundcard end)
would this have anything to do with it ?

but definetly no difference using the DI.

It won't make a world difference if you're using active pickups and monitoring on a low end system and pluging the DI into an unbalanced input or with an unbalanced cable.

 

[reneisgod]

yup im playing through an esp viper with emg active 81, 85 pickups cant hear any difference.

 

[~BURNY~]

Oh, and btw, the DI out is supposed to go into a mic input.

 

[reneisgod]

yeah been running it into a desk then out to the card still sounds the same.

 

[fistula]

and for recording - it is needed?

i mean i want to record my esp viper with emgs 81/85 do i need to use DI box for reamping after?

 

[them][nstrel]

Dude.. I have the exact same card.. Audiophile 2496.. a DI box will NOT make a lick of difference, if it does not color the sound.. I ran a shitty-ass guitar with no active pickup technology into the line input on this card.. obviously you have to use some kind of RCA convertor since Mic and Line ins as you know them on most cards are not available. But I believe on the settings for these inputs you can adjust some kind of preamp built into the card.. it can either be set for consumer level or studio level input.

For consumer level soundcards? Yes, it probably WILL make a difference using a DI box. Seemingly with M-Audio cards you won't have this problem, and probably some others as well.

 

[Fabbio]

Hi guys!!!

I've been tryin' to do this reamping thing using an Mbox (the first version, the one with the wings on the base).

Well, I must say that a DI directly from an EMG active pickup is more than enough to use as a signal for reamping.

But here's the problem:
If I put a jack from the line output 1 of Mbox to the insert slot of my Pod XT if I monitor the signal with the headphones from the headphone output of the Pod XT the dry signal is reamped very well.
But if I try to create a new track and directing the signal that travels from the line output 1 of Mbox (coming from track-1) to the input of the PodXT to the output (right or left it's the same) into the line in (source 1 or 2) of Mbox (to the track-2)... ...well it's nothing but bad feedback and not recording a reamped track onto the new one!

What it is that I'm doing wrong? It's possible to do any reamping in ProTools using a Pod XT with an Mbox given that a direct signal is recorded properly before?

Please help me!!!

 

[Carcass29]

When I reamped from my POD XTL I recorded the dry track...then connected the speaker out from my pc to the input on my XTL> out to the MBox back into the recorded track...worked great.

 

[Fabbio]

Sure, yeah, but how do you do this without bouncing the single track outside ProTools? It seems like no output comes out from my Powerbook, I hear sound only through the Mbox.

?

 

[Carcass29]

You have a headphone jack in your Powerbook right? ...connect that to the line in on the Pod XT and monitor what is being recorded thru the Mbox.

 

[Fabbio]

Still, no sound from the headphone hole if the Mbox is connected.

If I disconnect the Mbox ProTools doesn't start.

That's the conundrum, keef. (sorry for the Futurama line...)

HOw can you hear what's being pplayed back from ProTools LE into the inner soundcard of a Mac Powerbook if the soundcard is being stealed from the Mbox when ProTools LE is open?

Anyway, the headphone output is stereo, what happens if I need a mono signal? As in one guitar track.