Guitar tone competition 3 round 9
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BlackwingGabriel
feels so good.
Back from Barcelona, I'll post up the next one tonight. Have some business to take care of first, my wallet with my ID's, bankcards etc. got mugged -_-
Skaldir
formerly known as Unicorn
Can it be you're a little unlucky recently? First the Notebook, now mugged
Notebook was unlucky, wallet was stupidity. Had my wallet in my pants pocket in the barcelona metro. Big no no.
Can someone email me the corrected backing track? It was on my broken down laptop, and ermz no longer has the files.
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9F moves on to the next round! Congrats!
9D was Tokyurot
Guitars L1/R1: LeGion ampsim -> GuitarHack's Edge 45 ir -> ReaEQ
Guitars L2/R2: LeGion ampsim -> Poidaobi's englv30higherpres-01 ir -> ReaEQ
9E was Trevoire520
Trevoire520 Guitar Tone Competition Signal Chain.
RECORDING
Reamped with a Radial Pro RMP.
Rhythms were Peavey XXX
Leads were Orange Tiny Terror
Both were through a Ibanez TS7 (drive 7:00, tone 3:00, level 2:00) and a Blackstar Artisan 4x12" cabinet (V30's) mic'd with a Shure SM57, pointed at the edge of the dustcap, 6 inches back from the cone.
Recorded using the Profire 2626 pre's.
MIXDOWN
(This is just a quick rundown, exact settings can be found in the photo's)
High and low pass filters at 60hz and 12khz, 12db per octave on the guitar bus, aswell as a small cut at 400hz.
Due to the lack of eq on the tiny terror the lead tracks needed a bit of boost at 4.8khz and a cut at 450hz, and had a 12db per octave HPF at 20hz to keep the low end tidy.
The centre guitar in the verse had a 12db per octave HPF at 160hz and a small boost at 4.4khz.
Rhythms were panned 100/80 each side, melodies were 56 each side, verse guitar and the solo were both centre.
A 347ms delay was used on the lead guitars, panned to have opposite panning compared to the guitars (so the left melodies delay appears on the right) and there was a HPF at 120hz before the delay to keep it tidy.
9G was Unicorn
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1010558/comp3 mp3s/unicorn_settings.zip
10A was Vespiz
REAMP
Lynx Aurora 8 -> Radial ProRMP -> amp -> krank
-> SM57 + TG201 -> TG2 -> lynx aurora 8 -> pt 7.1
-----
GTR MAIN RHYTHM
6505+ red channel
pre gain 3, bass 5, mid 2.5, high 7-, post 3.5, reso 7, pres 8.5
L1 + R1 pan = 100 - 100, -6dB
L2 + R2 pan = 85 - 85, -8dB
-> SUB (aux) -3.5dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 24dB/oct 81.6, LPF 24dB/oct 10kHz
160Hz -2.0dB, 2.39kHz -4.0dB (Q=8, tight notch!), 8khz +2.0dB (Q=0.71)
-----
GTR C
6505+ green channel + RAT distortion, filter full open, volume full
pre gain 7, crunch off, bass 5, mid 2, high 7, post 3.5, reso 7, pres 8
pan = 100 - 100, -3dB
-> SUB (aux) -8.4dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 18dB/oct 100Hz, LPF 24dB/oct 9.54kHz
Low shelf 280Hz -5.2dB (Q=0.57), 7.45khz +2.3dB (Q=0.55)
-----
GTR MEL
PowerBall lead channel, can't remember the settings, tried so many variations..
pan = 100 - 100, -3dB
-> SUB (aux) -6.9dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 12dB/oct 386Hz, LPF 24dB/oct 9.78kHz
516Hz -1.3dB (Q=1.23), 2.39kHz -2.2dB (Q=7.25, tight notch!), 6khz +1.8dB (Q=1)
-----
GTR LEAD
6505+ red
pre 4+, bass 5+, mid 3, high 7, post, 3.5, reso 7, pres 8.5
pan 0 - 0, -3.8dB
-> SUB (aux) -3.2dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 12dB/oct 225Hz, LPF 24dB/oct 9.78kHz
439Hz -3.6dB (Q=1.23), 2.34kHz -3.4dB (Q=10, tight notch!), 8khz +3.8dB (Q=1)
-----
FX
LEAD + MEL DELAY
DIGIRACK ModDelay II
Quarters (left -1%, right +1%), LPF 2k, feedback 30%, polarity reversed
-> EQIII 7-band HPF 12dB/oct 225Hz, LPF 12dB/oct 2.86kHz
GTR LEAD REVERB + MEL
DigiRack D-VERB
Plate, small, 817ms, 43ms pre-delay
-> EQIII 7-band HPF 12dB/oct 225Hz, LPF 12dB/oct 4.67kHz
GTR LEAD "Stereo widener/chorus"
Digirack ModDelay II
both channels 19.08ms, LPF 2749Hz, modulation 100%, left channel rate 0.25Hz, right channel rate 0.13Hz, feedback 0%, polarity reversed.
10B was Wild Hades
ROUTING
Rhythm Guitars are divided in 2 groups:
- Guitars Wide (L1 + R1 panned 100%)
- Guitars Narrow (L2 + R2 panned 80%)
These two groups go into another bus called "Rhythm Bus".
Melodies go into the "Guitars Melodies" channel.
The rhythm bus, melodies bus, center guitar and solo, go into the "Guitars Master bus".
AUTOMATIONS
The "Rhythm Bus" volume is lowered by 0.5db when melodies enter.
It goes back to the normal volume when melodies are fading out.
NOTES
-The plugin called NRR1 that you see on all the guitars bus is an amp sim I'm developing and it is not released yet, since it lacks a GUI, that's why you see the standard Cubase sliders in the interface.
-If you try to make a null test with the only guitars track and the mixdown track, you'll not a have a total phase cancellation during the solo. This is probably dued to BREVERB, which seems to add some random stuff, making impossible to have a total phase cancellation when it is processing the signal.
Not a big deal, but I thought it would be good to let you know. Of course this applies to the guitars only, the backing track is untouched.
.rar to the picture files:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1010558/comp3 mp3s/wild hades.rar
10C was WishEraser
Signal chain for rhythms:
Fireface 800 -> Reamp -> TS7 -> 5150 III -> Mesa OS -> SM57 -> FMR RNP -> Fireface 800
Signal chain for lead/melodies:
Fireface 800 -> Reamp -> TS7 -> 5150 III -> Mesa OS -> Cascade Gomez -> FMR RNP -> Fireface 800
Outer guitars panned wide at -5 dB. Inner guitars panned 80% R and L at -9 dB and automated to -10.5 dB during chorus. These were sent to the guitar bus which was at – 8.5 dB.
The extra guitar during verse panned 90% L and at -2.5 dB.
Melody lines were panned 70% R and L and sent to a guitar melody bus at -3 dB. They were also sent to the Delay bus at -7.
The lead was at -3 db for the first 4 notes automated up to -2.3 dB for the remainder of the part. This was sent to the Delay bus at -13 and the Verb bus at -15.
See pictures for details. Additional pics with various amp settings, mic placement, etc, available if needed.
.rar to pictures:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1010558/comp3 mp3s/wisheraser.rar
9D was Tokyurot
Guitars L1/R1: LeGion ampsim -> GuitarHack's Edge 45 ir -> ReaEQ
Guitars L2/R2: LeGion ampsim -> Poidaobi's englv30higherpres-01 ir -> ReaEQ
9E was Trevoire520
Trevoire520 Guitar Tone Competition Signal Chain.
RECORDING
Reamped with a Radial Pro RMP.
Rhythms were Peavey XXX
Leads were Orange Tiny Terror
Both were through a Ibanez TS7 (drive 7:00, tone 3:00, level 2:00) and a Blackstar Artisan 4x12" cabinet (V30's) mic'd with a Shure SM57, pointed at the edge of the dustcap, 6 inches back from the cone.
Recorded using the Profire 2626 pre's.
MIXDOWN
(This is just a quick rundown, exact settings can be found in the photo's)
High and low pass filters at 60hz and 12khz, 12db per octave on the guitar bus, aswell as a small cut at 400hz.
Due to the lack of eq on the tiny terror the lead tracks needed a bit of boost at 4.8khz and a cut at 450hz, and had a 12db per octave HPF at 20hz to keep the low end tidy.
The centre guitar in the verse had a 12db per octave HPF at 160hz and a small boost at 4.4khz.
Rhythms were panned 100/80 each side, melodies were 56 each side, verse guitar and the solo were both centre.
A 347ms delay was used on the lead guitars, panned to have opposite panning compared to the guitars (so the left melodies delay appears on the right) and there was a HPF at 120hz before the delay to keep it tidy.
9G was Unicorn
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1010558/comp3 mp3s/unicorn_settings.zip
10A was Vespiz
REAMP
Lynx Aurora 8 -> Radial ProRMP -> amp -> krank
-> SM57 + TG201 -> TG2 -> lynx aurora 8 -> pt 7.1
-----
GTR MAIN RHYTHM
6505+ red channel
pre gain 3, bass 5, mid 2.5, high 7-, post 3.5, reso 7, pres 8.5
L1 + R1 pan = 100 - 100, -6dB
L2 + R2 pan = 85 - 85, -8dB
-> SUB (aux) -3.5dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 24dB/oct 81.6, LPF 24dB/oct 10kHz
160Hz -2.0dB, 2.39kHz -4.0dB (Q=8, tight notch!), 8khz +2.0dB (Q=0.71)
-----
GTR C
6505+ green channel + RAT distortion, filter full open, volume full
pre gain 7, crunch off, bass 5, mid 2, high 7, post 3.5, reso 7, pres 8
pan = 100 - 100, -3dB
-> SUB (aux) -8.4dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 18dB/oct 100Hz, LPF 24dB/oct 9.54kHz
Low shelf 280Hz -5.2dB (Q=0.57), 7.45khz +2.3dB (Q=0.55)
-----
GTR MEL
PowerBall lead channel, can't remember the settings, tried so many variations..
pan = 100 - 100, -3dB
-> SUB (aux) -6.9dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 12dB/oct 386Hz, LPF 24dB/oct 9.78kHz
516Hz -1.3dB (Q=1.23), 2.39kHz -2.2dB (Q=7.25, tight notch!), 6khz +1.8dB (Q=1)
-----
GTR LEAD
6505+ red
pre 4+, bass 5+, mid 3, high 7, post, 3.5, reso 7, pres 8.5
pan 0 - 0, -3.8dB
-> SUB (aux) -3.2dB
-> EQ DigiRack EQIII 7-band
HPF 12dB/oct 225Hz, LPF 24dB/oct 9.78kHz
439Hz -3.6dB (Q=1.23), 2.34kHz -3.4dB (Q=10, tight notch!), 8khz +3.8dB (Q=1)
-----
FX
LEAD + MEL DELAY
DIGIRACK ModDelay II
Quarters (left -1%, right +1%), LPF 2k, feedback 30%, polarity reversed
-> EQIII 7-band HPF 12dB/oct 225Hz, LPF 12dB/oct 2.86kHz
GTR LEAD REVERB + MEL
DigiRack D-VERB
Plate, small, 817ms, 43ms pre-delay
-> EQIII 7-band HPF 12dB/oct 225Hz, LPF 12dB/oct 4.67kHz
GTR LEAD "Stereo widener/chorus"
Digirack ModDelay II
both channels 19.08ms, LPF 2749Hz, modulation 100%, left channel rate 0.25Hz, right channel rate 0.13Hz, feedback 0%, polarity reversed.
10B was Wild Hades
ROUTING
Rhythm Guitars are divided in 2 groups:
- Guitars Wide (L1 + R1 panned 100%)
- Guitars Narrow (L2 + R2 panned 80%)
These two groups go into another bus called "Rhythm Bus".
Melodies go into the "Guitars Melodies" channel.
The rhythm bus, melodies bus, center guitar and solo, go into the "Guitars Master bus".
AUTOMATIONS
The "Rhythm Bus" volume is lowered by 0.5db when melodies enter.
It goes back to the normal volume when melodies are fading out.
NOTES
-The plugin called NRR1 that you see on all the guitars bus is an amp sim I'm developing and it is not released yet, since it lacks a GUI, that's why you see the standard Cubase sliders in the interface.
-If you try to make a null test with the only guitars track and the mixdown track, you'll not a have a total phase cancellation during the solo. This is probably dued to BREVERB, which seems to add some random stuff, making impossible to have a total phase cancellation when it is processing the signal.
Not a big deal, but I thought it would be good to let you know. Of course this applies to the guitars only, the backing track is untouched.
.rar to the picture files:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1010558/comp3 mp3s/wild hades.rar
10C was WishEraser
Signal chain for rhythms:
Fireface 800 -> Reamp -> TS7 -> 5150 III -> Mesa OS -> SM57 -> FMR RNP -> Fireface 800
Signal chain for lead/melodies:
Fireface 800 -> Reamp -> TS7 -> 5150 III -> Mesa OS -> Cascade Gomez -> FMR RNP -> Fireface 800
Outer guitars panned wide at -5 dB. Inner guitars panned 80% R and L at -9 dB and automated to -10.5 dB during chorus. These were sent to the guitar bus which was at – 8.5 dB.
The extra guitar during verse panned 90% L and at -2.5 dB.
Melody lines were panned 70% R and L and sent to a guitar melody bus at -3 dB. They were also sent to the Delay bus at -7.
The lead was at -3 db for the first 4 notes automated up to -2.3 dB for the remainder of the part. This was sent to the Delay bus at -13 and the Verb bus at -15.
See pictures for details. Additional pics with various amp settings, mic placement, etc, available if needed.
.rar to pictures:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1010558/comp3 mp3s/wisheraser.rar
