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Not a valid point. Joey DeMaio is a great bassist

Are you serious? :lol: FatesFan you have to back me up here...please! Joey DeMaio's bass solos are some of the worst I've ever heard! You talk about wankery....sheeze....:goggly:

I do agree that Eric Adams can sing with the best of them though. He has a fantastic voice, but Joey is a total tool dude.

~Brian~
 
Are you serious? :lol: FatesFan you have to back me up here...please! Joey DeMaio's bass solos are some of the worst I've ever heard! You talk about wankery....sheeze....:goggly:

I do agree that Eric Adams can sing with the best of them though. He has a fantastic voice, but Joey is a total tool dude.

~Brian~

First I will say that I grew up on Manowar and am a huge fan. Joey is no doubt a talented guy in some regard but he is no John Myung. I have seen Manowar twice and both shows would have been much better if they didn't have a JD bass solo every other song. Or at all for that matter.

Manowar are cheesy and ridiculous with much of what they do but that is what makes them Manowar. I love the guys. You can't take them too seriously. Manowar is without a doubt the only metal band that we speak about here that have played on Nickelodeon. That in itself is so wrong. But at the same time, Manowar has played in front of crowds that would more than equal 50 ProgPower crowds or more. I have a hard time busting the balls of a band that has made such a success out of them selves as they have. Example: I do not like AC/DC or KISS…….But you can’t take away what they have accomplished with their respective careers. I think KISS is in many ways as ridiculous as MANOWAR but MANOWAR are far more talented than the original KISS line up IMO.
 
First I will say that I grew up on Manowar and am a huge fan. Joey is no doubt a talented guy in some regard but he is no John Myung. I have seen Manowar twice and both shows would have been much better if they didn't have a JD bass solo every other song. Or at all for that matter.

Manowar are cheesy and ridiculous with much of what they do but that is what makes them Manowar. I love the guys. You can't take them too seriously. Manowar is without a doubt the only metal band that we speak about here that have played on Nickelodeon. That in itself is so wrong. But at the same time, Manowar has played in front of crowds that would more than equal 50 ProgPower crowds or more. I have a hard time busting the balls of a band that has made such a success out of them selves as they have. Example: I do not like AC/DC or KISS…….But you can’t take away what they have accomplished with their respective careers. I think KISS is in many ways as ridiculous as MANOWAR but MANOWAR are far more talented than the original KISS line up IMO.
I grew up on Manowar back in the 80s too and used to love them (at least for the first 3 albums). Into Glory Ride is still an awesome CD (my favorite Manowar disk)! Yeah, Joey is no Myung, but he is very good. And yeah Ross isn't a technical god, but he is solid as is the drummer. Eric, on the other hand, is an AMAZING singer. Just listen to Dark Avenger (from Battle Hymns) or Gates of Valhalla (from Into Glory Ride) or for that matter just about anything off of Into Glory Ride (Secret of Steel & Gloves of Metal come to mind) and you will realize that Eric is a force. Granted, I don't really listen to them much at all any more, but at the time Manowar ruled! Their music and image did get cheesier and weaker after Hail to England, but that doesn't take away what they released in their early years!
 
I grew up on Manowar back in the 80s too and used to love them (at least for the first 3 albums). Into Glory Ride is still an awesome CD (my favorite Manowar disk)! Yeah, Joey is no Myung, but he is very good. And yeah Ross isn't a technical god, but he is solid as is the drummer. Eric, on the other hand, is an AMAZING singer. Just listen to Dark Avenger (from Battle Hymns) or Gates of Valhalla (from Into Glory Ride) or for that matter just about anything off of Into Glory Ride (Secret of Steel & Gloves of Metal come to mind) and you will realize that Eric is a force. Granted, I don't really listen to them much at all any more, but at the time Manowar ruled! Their music and image did get cheesier and weaker after Hail to England, but that doesn't take away what they released in their early years!

So, can we expect a wardrobe tribute to Manowar at the next OC gig? :heh:
 
First I will say that I grew up on Manowar and am a huge fan. Joey is no doubt a talented guy in some regard but he is no John Myung. I have seen Manowar twice and both shows would have been much better if they didn't have a JD bass solo every other song. Or at all for that matter.

Exactly. Joey's problem is that he's too pompous... i mean, let's be honest... the dude's a dick, not to mention he feels the need to solo or make a speech after every song. But as far as talent goes, he can compose some great songs that actually go somewhere (which i'm inclined to argue most prog musicians have a hard time doing well) and he can play pretty well too. Sure, he's no Myung but that wouldn't fit in Manowar.

And i'm not out to change anyone's mind with this discussion either. I know where people are coming from because i used to hate manowar and all they stood for, but then i removed the stick out of my ass and learned to enjoy myself a bit and all of a sudden, the cheesiness that is Manowar wasn't so bad. You don't have to like them, but there's no argument in regards to them being the absolute best at what they do: making heavy metal.
 
Exactly. Joey's problem is that he's too pompous... i mean, let's be honest... the dude's a dick, not to mention he feels the need to solo or make a speech after every song. But as far as talent goes, he can compose some great songs

Agreed. Joey's mouth is a bigger turn off to me than anything else with them. Manowar minus Speaches and Solos is a great combination for me. I am a fan and I know I'll get slagged for that but so what.
 
MANOWAR are good, cheesy, fucking fun heavy metal music. They are meant to be FUN. Nothing more and nothing less. As that is the way it should be. I love them. If others hate them...then oh, well. HAIL AND KILL!
 
MANOWAR are good, cheesy, fucking fun heavy metal music. They are meant to be FUN. Nothing more and nothing less. As that is the way it should be. I love them. If others hate them...then oh, well. HAIL AND KILL!

It would break Joey's heart to read that. Have you ever been to a Manowar concert, talked to Joey, read or listened to an interview with him?

The dude is deadass SERIOUS about Manowar. He rants about being ready to die for Metal. He points out band t-shirts worn at Manowar shows, and slams the bands on them (Priest, Maiden, Metallica etc.) for never giving Manowar a break. For being "affraid" to take Manowar on tour with them. That Manowar is the TRUE champion of Metal. The rants go on and on, and he means every word of them.

Manowar writes great Metal Anthems, and some of their songs are among my favorites. Kings of Metal, Fighting The World, and Louder Than Hell are some of my favorite workout CD's. However, while I don't take them seriously never think that they, or at least Joey, don't mean for themselves to be taken seriously. Very seriously.
 
I've seen them three times. I've seen the schtick. I really believe it's an act. He was just on Bruce Dickinson's radio show. And, I don't recall any fights or arguments happened. I love MANOWAR probably more than any other fans I know and I still think it's all theatrical. With their name and image, how could they act any other way? I really don't give a flying fuck if their serious or not. I've loved them since high school. I've been listening to them for 26 years and will continue to do so.
 
So, you're saying if I don't like Manowar, hail and kill, blah, blah, blah....then I have a stick up my ass? :lol: I might need to get that checked out then....:lol:

~Brian~
No, not at all. You can dislike the music, you can dislike the schtick (the reason why i don't like most kvlt black metal is because they are all tools... or at least i'll never take a band like Watain seriously), any of that. I just think any metal fan should be able to see that and at least laugh at the joke that is ALL metal. Hell, even Dream Theater and such are walking parodies, as is proven by the Petrucci videos.

I think mine's permanent, but Zack aleady knew that! :lol:

Goddamnit John, it's ZacH<=== That's an H! Jesus, we've been over this. No more poolboy services for you :mad:


But yeah, even if Joey is dead serious it really doesn't matter. It's all part of the great comedy that is Metal, and it's exactly what makes the band so appealing to so many people. It's the power, the glory, all of that. Meh, if you don't get it, you never will. I'm going to enjoy it immensely.

And for the record, most manowar fans i know, even die hards, will laugh at them at some point. You laugh, raise the sign of the hammer and sing along.
 
I'm glad the subject came up. "The Gods Made Heavy Metal" and "Number 1" helped me cut 30 secs off my 5K time today.
 
No, not at all. You can dislike the music, you can dislike the schtick (the reason why i don't like most kvlt black metal is because they are all tools... or at least i'll never take a band like Watain seriously), any of that. I just think any metal fan should be able to see that and at least laugh at the joke that is ALL metal. Hell, even Dream Theater and such are walking parodies, as is proven by the Petrucci videos.

Zach, I'm just trying to push your buttons a little. FatesFan is a good friend of mine and he grew up listening to Manowar, so I give him the same shit. I agree with you that some metal fans take their music too seriously. 99.9% of this stuff is intended to entertain, so take it for what it's worth. :kickass:

~Brian~
 
Hey, no problem. Hopefully i don't give off the impression that i'm sitting here at the keyboard going ":mad: FUCK THIS GUY FOR DISAGREEING :mad:"

In fact, it's nice to have a decent discussion about metal and the reasons why something does or doesn't catch one's attention.
 
Okay....enough about Manowar.....This thread was about me looking for a band that played on HBB. As stated in this thread it was PROTEST THE HERO. I just picked up the new album today. If you think the song bloodmeat is all over the place, you haven't heard anything yet. I am only about 4 songs into this cd and it is already worth the price of admission.

I will most likely get flamed for pushing this album but I don&#8217;t care. If you like heavy prog with lots of time changes and varied vocals (clean,screams,growls) you have to check this out. They are on a tour right now with 3 other bands that I wouldn&#8217;t go see if they were playing in my living room but these boys can play.

Edit: Review of the new album http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=23330

Parts of said review :

Musically, Fortress marches to a much deeper tune than its predecessors. A result of a conglomerating prominent low-end, unrelenting harsh vocals (we'll get there) and more aggressive songwriting, Fortress is head and shoulders above Kezia in terms of sheer heaviness. It also refines the band's sound into one that is irrefutably metal. While there's no shortage of punk and (post)hardcore, calling this metalcore is to ignorantly shove aside all of the other non-metal influences. Fortress runs up, down and around the gamut, incorporating encompassing influences subtly into a progressive metal setting, one thankfully lacking in James LaBrie and 'it was all a dream' epiphanies.

The vocals, unrelentingly executed by Rody (with some help from the rest of the band, the producer and Ceci the studio cat) deserve their own paragraph. And before I go for the gusto, I'll say it now and get it out of the way: the 11-second scream at the end of "The Dissentience", the guttural "royalty must die" growl on "Bone Marrow" and the seamless high scream to mid-growls placed throughout the album are Rody. Arif, who was previously believed to have performed the majority of the growls, has only one actual recorded line, a brief growl (that's underneath Rody's scream) on "Wretch". This is not as trivial as you'd initially assume, for my point is not that Rody pulls out all the stops (he does) or that he's expanded his repertoire ten-fold (he has), but rather that Rody was given the freedom to do as he saw fit on Fortress. He is the vocalist and it's made abundantly clear, and luckily this time around he's shown not only extensive improvement in his myriad of styles, but in his ability to show restraint and maturely appropriate harsh and clean vocals where they fit. Rody has matured over the course of the band's young career and this is no different, as he vies to keep the harmonies natural this time around and limits the layering that hindered his performance on Kezia. Of course, the freedom does get a little over-exemplified in some instances, mostly in the occasional "fuck yeaaaaah" ad lib or in the girlish, Vince Neil inspired falsettos in "Wretch", which thankfully lasts all of three seconds. His sometimes whiny intonation is almost completely absent without the overly harmonised cleans, and he's expanded his range far beyond his newly honed harsh vocals, pushing out higher notes than you'd expect as effortlessly as you would hope.