Heathen Pride, Heathen Honour, Heathen victory!

[Heathen_Pride]

Hail fellow warriors!

There are so many threads out there and some excellent thoughts and opinions so I decided that I would like to start my own

This thread will be many things. It will be a way for you to express your beliefs and opinions on all things Amon Amarth and all things Viking!

You can write about anything AA, Norse or Viking here. I also invite you to share your thoughts on the scourge that is Christianity and the devastating impact it has had on so many cultures and races over time.

Do not, repeat do not, use this thread to spout crude vitriol as I am past that and it is counter productive and achieves nothing. Instead use this thread to discuss the many facets of the demise of the old relegions and what you think can be done to bring them back.

I will start off my thread by saying how proud I am that so many bands, AA at the forefront, are bringing back the old tales out of the history books and into our stereos/ipods etc. We cannot begin to walk the long road that leads out of this insanity filled christian age until people become more aware of the old ways and start to question what has become a sad and sorry world.

Gone is the age of heroes. Replaced with an age of mediocrity and filled with people (the masses) that, for the most part, are ignorant of what once was.

I refuse to be classified as part of the masses and I encourage you to set yourself aside also! Share your thoughts here now, perhaps you think I am full of sh!t so tell me so but have a voice as that is the most important thing.

Let the resurgence begin and let loose your inner Viking. Write here about your experiences with the modern world (good and bad) and explain what you think you and others can do to try and stem the rapid decline of humanity.

HP

 

[Gazza]

i probably met you at the Adelaide show

 

[Heathen_Pride]

Aye, no doubt you did! If you went to the Enigma bar after the show you would have seen me with an enormous cigar shootin th breeze with the lads!!

 

[ArminAmarth92]

Christianity had done many things wrong in the course of time, but it was fault of men, not of God.
They misunderstood the message of God and went killing heathen brothers like they were demons.... yeah that's ignorance and being close-minded, but men did that, it's not God's fault.

 

[Xurek]

How could it be God's fault? He doesn't exist.

 

[Resonator]

I am speaking for all the christian scum out there and say in likewise manner of your behavior towards them, I will behave the same to you.

God is the son of the devil. A christian cannot fathom this because they perceive God as good. But without the tree of knowledge this would be for nothing. It is not the actions you do that bring sin upon you, it is the mindful conception of sin. So without even having to do it himself, God has a way of commanding an army of people that believe in bad or good because of the APPLE!.

GET OVER IT. YOU'RE NOT GOOD AND YOU'RE NOT EVIL. OH HOW I COULD GO ON ABOUT THIS.

So, are christians bad? No, but we are ALL deceived from the truth. Even you, viking warriors. Your honor ways will come to be forgotten as quickly as you embraced them. For in dealing with death in your heads you forgot the legacy we are born with. It is to become free, and as the new breed arises we will stamp out the Gods because even if they loved humanity (And they do) they cannot get over their own nature and will do everything in their power to stop us from being more than they.

Forgive them for they know not what they do. Or rather, it is they do not care so long as that need is fulfilled.

What's important to know is that by acting out in this manner, we accomplish the same form of jealousy they do. This is why it will become a battle, because we're in essence fighting fire with fire. We can overcome that, though, and simply do as we wish. If you let it become hatred over the control in place, you become slave to the system and will never be free. You purposefully bind yourself to it. But if you learn how to walk without even caring.

So how is it a warrior is born if he cannot have his honor the way he wants? Because it is not how you will enter the new realm. You will enter pure of heart, and knowing in your mind that no wrong is caused with what you do is a weapon against the tree which binds us. Jealousy is the root of the tree, never forget that.

[/mindlessness]

So...Don't forget about your brothers.

 

[BeardedPanther]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
-Epicurus

Too bad people in the American south have to hide their beliefs.

 

[Heathen_Pride]

Christianity had done many things wrong in the course of time, but it was fault of men, not of God.
They misunderstood the message of God and went killing heathen brothers like they were demons.... yeah that's ignorance and being close-minded, but men did that, it's not God's fault.

I never said it was god... For me god does not exist. What does exist however is the IDEA of god and that is what has caused untold misery. death and bloodshed.

Men have indeed been the perpetrators behind such evils but without the idea to poisen their minds it would not have happened...

There are many things throughout history that have led the race of man astray but none more violent and depraved than the singular belief that GOD is the only way for salvation. It is man's fear of death that has led this insanity to control his life. If man accepts death for what it is then the need for peace in the afterlife will disolved...

 

[Heathen_Pride]

I am speaking for all the christian scum out there and say in likewise manner of your behavior towards them, I will behave the same to you.

God is the son of the devil. A christian cannot fathom this because they perceive God as good. But without the tree of knowledge this would be for nothing. It is not the actions you do that bring sin upon you, it is the mindful conception of sin. So without even having to do it himself, God has a way of commanding an army of people that believe in bad or good because of the APPLE!.

GET OVER IT. YOU'RE NOT GOOD AND YOU'RE NOT EVIL. OH HOW I COULD GO ON ABOUT THIS.

So, are christians bad? No, but we are ALL deceived from the truth. Even you, viking warriors. Your honor ways will come to be forgotten as quickly as you embraced them. For in dealing with death in your heads you forgot the legacy we are born with. It is to become free, and as the new breed arises we will stamp out the Gods because even if they loved humanity (And they do) they cannot get over their own nature and will do everything in their power to stop us from being more than they.

Forgive them for they know not what they do. Or rather, it is they do not care so long as that need is fulfilled.

What's important to know is that by acting out in this manner, we accomplish the same form of jealousy they do. This is why it will become a battle, because we're in essence fighting fire with fire. We can overcome that, though, and simply do as we wish. If you let it become hatred over the control in place, you become slave to the system and will never be free. You purposefully bind yourself to it. But if you learn how to walk without even caring.

So how is it a warrior is born if he cannot have his honor the way he wants? Because it is not how you will enter the new realm. You will enter pure of heart, and knowing in your mind that no wrong is caused with what you do is a weapon against the tree which binds us. Jealousy is the root of the tree, never forget that.

[/mindlessness]

So...Don't forget about your brothers.

Your contribution is welcome.

I will say however that I do not agree that the ways of honour and pride will be forgotten. The ways of the viking have persisted and survived despite the best efforts to squash them and the old ways live on and will never die.

For me there is no new realm. There is death. No rebirth, no heaven and no new ethereal body with which to enjoy the afterlife. I believe (and it is important to remember I am expressing my opinion and not telling you what to believe) that we simply die and that is it. Into the earth only living on in the memories of those we leave behind.

It is this, I believe, that caused Christianity and subsequent afterlife based beliefs. Fear and fear alone of what happens upon death. The creation of the New Testament is a classic example of this because before it there was no "salvation" aside from being sin free but man found out exactly how hard this is and created the new testament and with it salvation through Jesus...

Instantly Christianity became the ultimate convenient belief! Now one could do what ever he liked (save blasphemy of the holy spirit) and all he had to do was say sorry!

Not bad I say.... If your relegion is too hard to stick with change it so all you have to do is repent and be absolved of your sins! Even on ones deathbed one can call out grandiose apologies to the lord almighty and through the pearly gates he goes...

All this could have been avoided if only man accepted death for what it is...

keep the forum going folks!

 

[Resonator]

Now my friend this is where we differ. You say nothing shall be had, or remembered...Who are you really to say these things for sure?

Is it deception which has caused you to say this? Hatred, perhaps? You speak without clear mind and lie about things you are blinded from. Not to say you are blind, just blinded by your own device. When you sleep for days and wake up with a door to a new world before you, perhaps then you will simply take my word for it that there is truth and there is deception in this manner. I don't know why you fight if only to fight for no reason. You demean the scourge when it has brought light to peoples hearts.

But it is the built in need for that savior that people cannot escape, and God has been that savior. When I say he will not give up his power because he is unable, it's because of the way he works. He is not like me and you, or at least that is what I have been led to believe. You can only be what you were created from, as if to say each son from the progenitor root is connected to the tree always. If that root is jealousy, no matter how many branches that come forth, they are all bound by it. Unless they are cut from it, and since life only exists connected to the tree then when they are severed they are dead.

Humans are a different tree altogether, but still bound by the same rules. Thor will come and chop every single one of you from that tree, to become a part of his tree (Thanks to our Holy Whore) as he will be a root for you to draw unlimited strength.

You can come to know me as a source of strength. When you are weak, remember my name and you will find me.

 

[waif]

 

[Resonator]

Same concept, different post. You do not suck and you do not rock.

 

[Heathen_Pride]

haha random post LMAO!!!

 

[waif]

You've posted several solid blocks of text containing nothing worth reading; other than that, this thread consists of idiots bashing Christianity in the age of atheism and getting stiffies because some death metal bands are claiming to promote a tradition very similar to one responsible for a great deal of the world's problems.

 

[Resonator]

I don't know why you're complaining my friend. When the truth comes out for all to see, I only hope you'll remember this conversation.

You know why they're all starting to do it now? It's because of the network. Shared ideals spread across a vast distance which is created metaphysically, but only becoming manifest because of where we are in time if it can be measured by the context of events occuring in history.

Can I say trust me, or are you still blind enough to say no?

 

[waif]

I assume you're laughing your ass off now. I didn't catch on till now tbh.

 

[Resonator]

I'm being serious. It's a belief to be sure but what can you say of yours? Do you even have a CLUE as to how the metaphysical world works?

If I wanted to stamp out God's existence, all I have to do is convince the world that in one simultaneous event we can all just believe that he is going to die from believing he is dead. All at once, with the combined force of many can do alot, and the longer people believe in Chistianity the more inevitable any given apocalypse becomes.

Don't mess with the system...Oh wait, we're TRYING to accomplish this.

 

[waif]

Christianity: Not the fucking root of all evil.

 

[Heathen_Pride]

You've posted several solid blocks of text containing nothing worth reading; other than that, this thread consists of idiots bashing Christianity in the age of atheism and getting stiffies because some death metal bands are claiming to promote a tradition very similar to one responsible for a great deal of the world's problems.

Now why not write that instead of nothing?

I would say that yes I am bashing christianity (hardly getting a "stiffy" though) but that is not what this thread is about, I promote free thought but at the moment the forum appears to be on a christianity bash. Nothing wrong with that!
As for perceived similiarities between Norse beliefs and christianity all I can say is one thing: Never has there been ANY promotion of the "one god, one salvation" notion in any Norse mythology. There were indeed a whole pantheon (a word not used in christianity as it indicates more than one god) of gods who represented many aspects of life. These aspects range from fertility to war, good to evil etc.

If the religions were so similiar then christians would not have seen it as such a threat and sought to destroy it. The only similiarities I can see are, ironically, Christmas and Easter. Both pagan festivals that were retained by the invading christians as a means to assist the people of the north to convert. The people were more likely to convert if they had their festivals so the 2 biggest ones were retained. Easter named after Eostre (fertility festival, hence the eggs) and Christmas which was a night when the Yule log was burned. If it lasted the night and was still burning the next morning there would be good crops etc.

Perhaps if you don't like the forum, and it's content. then do not contribute?

 

[waif]

In all honesty Norse beliefs are utterly idiotic, at least as much so as Christian mythology. I understand the word pantheon, although I realize that having just learned what it meant you may think others won't understand it. You claim to promote free thought and then endorse bashing Christianity. You understand that that implies poor logic and a great deal of spittle flying, yes?
As far as destroying pagan religions, that was a political, rather than religious, process. My understanding with the norse religions is that it was necessary for the kings, who converted willingly, to convert their subjects to both justify their rule and establish unity. As far as the various festivals, that's both so commonly known and so fucking irrelevant that I have to wonder why you included it.
Obviously I like this forum, the content of the forum does not consist of "heathen pride, heathen honour, heathen victory!" (because buying expensive handmade leather goods will bring back the old ways), it's about Amon Amarth.