heavy prog

Originally posted by simonc2
One word springs to mind when I read your comments: "patronising".

Wow, nothing gets by you, does it? heheh ;)

You obviously didn't read my post which clearly explained how you are arrogant.

I obviously did read it and it only encouraged me to fuck with you guys even more, considering how you were getting your panties in a bunch over this bullshit, heheh. ;)

You are so truelly up yourself about your tastes in music that you accuse us of being teeny boppers for having different tastes to you.

I actually think you are teeny-boppers because most of you still haven't made the distinction between cheese and non-cheese, you personal love of something clouds your ability to be objective, as we have seen.

People as arrogant as you should not be allowed on these message boards.

I'll forgive you for being such a dimwit to actually say something so stupid/ridiculous ;)

On second thoughts I must be musically ignorant considering I hate 311 which our musically enlightened friend Satori apparently likes.

I also like Abba and XTC. Do you seem me defending them by suggesting they aren't cheesy? Wake up, geesh, this is lame!

Or maybe I just have different tastes (not better, not worse).

Or maybe your liking of something clouds your ability to discern the commerial cheese factor?

Satori
 
Well, I like Dream Theater. And I'll admit that it's cheesy. It's self-indulgent. But, hey, everyone gets in those moods, right? I mean, as long as Petrucci continues to play like he does, I'll continue to listen. Hell, I even like Labrie's voice. I still think Hansi is the best actual singer in metal, these days, though.

As for Pain of Salvation-- I've never even heard 'em.

Satori, I realize that you don't care for these bands, but to some people here, they are the greatest bands alive. Now, I know you said that a time will come in every person's life when he/she realizes that certain music is better left unheard, but that's just it-- it takes time. No matter how much someone may be harrassed and harangued, he/she will not learn any faster when it's simply a matter of maturing tastes. I know that you're simply trying to do a favour for some of the people, and that's admirable, but taste is something tempered over many years, not just in mere moments. Some people may never realize that DT's wankery is just that, but if that's the case, then great for that person. The way I see it is that if someone can form a bond, be it spiritual or emotional, with a band, more power to him/her. In the world we live in, everyone needs a crutch, a boost. If listening to DT or PoS and being able to relate to the lyrics, the emotion [be it forced or not] in a singer's voice, or just the passion of the music keeps someone going, then isn't it worth it? I've said my peace.
 
Originally posted by Satori
Right on! I also fucking hate this lame dream theatre and pain of salvation crap as well, that crappy "oh look at me in my fit of self-indulgent musical masturbation, I'm so sensitive and serious and emotional, I'm going to cry now, boo-hoo-hoo, I'm so cool and worldly" bullshit makes me want to wretch feces. I find it FAKE and FORCED and therefore not real music. That sort of music reminds me so much of something like Celine Dion, ewww.

Satori

First you state this and now your complaint is that it's cheesy and everyone who doesn't admit this should be ashamed? :lol: Who cares if it's chessy or not which is your opinion and your insults towards anyone who won't agree with you is IMMATURE! I thought that the thing that matters is if you like it or not which in your case includes a band like 311 and shame on anyone who used this as a tool to argue with you! The discussion is about your veiws with DT and PoS only and it's fine if you don't like them but the insults that you've repeatedly thrown out towards the people here are surprising and uncalled for!

Plus the statement above screems that you don't feel that they are talented and now you're throwing out this statement: :confused:

"I don't recall saying that I don't have respect for them as talented musicians. I do (even DT). "

You've started to turn this around stating that you're continuing your bashing because you find it humorous and I say find your real life satori and stop wasting this energy!