hello i am gay and i like gothenburg, plz give recommendations

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ok, just as a preliminary I don't care how gay you think this genre is, I just want to know more bands out there that are good like Insomnium which I have been obsessed over lately. Obviously I'm not looking for names everyone knows like in flames COB etc.
 
Insomnium come off to me as a watered down version of Colony Era In Flames.
My recommendation is Dimension Zero who really are "Gothenburg", unlike Insomnium who aren't even from Sweden. :loco:

I also recommend Soilwork "The Chainheart Machine".
 
If you don't have At the Gates' Slaughter of the Soul, you are really missing out. But as you say, most know of them, so.....

Try the vasly underrated melodic death metal band called "The Duskfall" and Frailty in particular, one of my "out of nowhere" surprise releases of 2002. Here's a song off it called "None":

http://download.yousendit.com/AA9EE07E308A784B

And the title track "Frailty":

http://download.yousendit.com/34111EE72AB0602D


Also, try Grievance - The Phantom Novels. In Flames had a hand helping to produce this album, way back when most considered them still relevant back in 1999. Here's a song called "Angels Succumb":

http://download.yousendit.com/CEAFC1097AEA1103

Jason
 
Sacrilege - both albums
Eucharist - both albums
At the Gates - everything
Eternal Lies - Spiritual deception
Arsis - everyting
Decameron - My shadow
 
Ok, here's another boring lecture from Professor Neil. I didn't just write this now, it's x-posted from this thread, but since you mentioned Insomnium, who fits my "pure-MDM" definition perfectly, I figure this might be what you're looking for.

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This thread got me bouncing around through my collection sampling all the things I thought were "melodic death metal", and I came up with some surprises.

To me, the main characteristic of MDM (besides it being "metal" and the dominant vocal being growled) is a constant lead guitar melody laid over the top and winding and weaving throughout an entire song.

So I disagree with Jim that removing the growls would make MDM just "metal". In most normal metal, any lead guitar present usually drops out when the vocal comes in, allowing the vocal to provide the main hook of the song. In MDM, it's the guitar that has the sole responsibility of providing the hooks, and it usually supports the vocal, even giving the illusion that the growls contain melody of their own.

By this definition, In Flames's "Subterranean" is almost a perfect example of MDM, while "Slaughter of the Soul" barely qualifies at all.

In Flames is a good case study. Even by "The Jester Race", the MDM can be seen to fade a bit. Take the verses of "Graveland" and the title track, for example. The flowing lead guitar has been sacrificed in favor of the chunky riff. The riffs themselves *do* still have a lead guitar component riding on the top, but it's played staccato to highlight the jerky rhythm, in a very "Dark Tranquillity" kind of way. It becomes even more pronounced when we get to "Food For the Gods" and "Morphing Into Primal" on "Whoracle" (contrast them with "Jotun"), and by the time "Reroute to Remain" comes along, they don't even bother to include the staccato lead in the riffs anymore, apparently preferring to reserve all the sonic space for the bass-heavy chunk.

So really, some of the purest examples of MDM come from some of the lesser-known bands, such as the previously-mentioned Without Grief and Sacrilege. WG's "Deflower" is pure lead-guitar heaven, and I think the main reason that the follow-up album isn't as good is because the lead-guitar aspect was reduced. Even a relatively new band from the wrong country, like Searing Meadow, can make a purer (and really good) MDM album with "Corroding From Inside".

And then there are the classic albums from bands that haven't traditionally been called MDM in the narrow sense, but they do the lead-guitar thing better than almost anyone from Gothenburg: Amorphis "Tales From the Thousand Lakes", Orphaned Land "Sahara" (and even "El Norra Alila"), and Edge of Sanity "Crimson".

My favorite Withering Surface album is "Walking on Phantom Ice", but now I realize that it's not an MDM album at all, despite the fact that the band's two previous albums clearly are. The melody comes mostly from the vocals and keyboards rather than any guitar lines. This is the same reason new Soilwork doesn't qualify under the MDM definition, and old Soilwork is disqualified for the same reason as Arch Enemy: the lead guitar parts are too compartmentalized and separated from the "thrash" parts, either in dedicated "solos", or too-obvious hooks.

Some other really good pure-MDM albums include:

Mortum - The Druid Ceremony
Summer Dying - One Last Taste of Temptation
Thirdmoon - Bloodforsaken
Nocturnal Winds - Everlasting Fall
Exhumation - Dance Across the Past (better than any Nightrage!)

So I've been hearing about these bands like Omnium Gatherum and Mors Principium Est, and I wonder if they (or any other bands I don't know) fit this narrow MDM-definition of mine? Because I was surprised to suddenly find a band like Searing Meadow out there that actually got me excited about MDM again, and I'm thinking there must be more like that.

Either way, listening to all these bands really reminded me why I was such an MDM nut in the first place. It's all pretty damn good shit.

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Since I posted that, I've checked out OG and MPE (as well as Insomnium). Obviously Insomnium fits perfectly, OG is pretty close, and MPE doesn't fit, being more in the Arch Enemy camp.

Neil
 
I disagree with Jim that removing the growls would make MDM just "metal". In most normal metal, any lead guitar present usually drops out when the vocal comes in, allowing the vocal to provide the main hook of the song. In MDM, it's the guitar that has the sole responsibility of providing the hooks, and it usually supports the vocal, even giving the illusion that the growls contain melody of their own.

Some Power Metal gets a seriously bad rap at times. I can cite two examples where the lead guitar delivers the melody together with the vocals: Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray. Indeed, much of the time, the guitar leads are actually harmonized with the lead vocals. So I think there might be a case to be made with some MDM where if you replaced the harsh vocals with clean, you could be bordering on Power Metal territory, and vice versa.

I second/third Eucharist (particularly Velvet Creation), and I'll throw in Dissection's SotLB. I really like DT's "The Gallery" as well. They're all a bit obvious though I suppose.

I'm tempted to say "Heartwork" as well, but I'll probably get the Carcass police on my trail. :tickled:
 
I'm tempted to say "Heartwork" as well, but I'll probably get the Carcass police on my trail. :tickled:

actually that's a good Recommendation. Necroticism is much better, but all the faggots that I know that listen to melo-death worship this album. He should enjoy it.
 
Hunt down GATES OF ISHTAR's Dawn Of Flames, the guys inThe Duskfall use to play in this band. Both of Nightrages albums, Hatespheres new one slays. Dimension Zero for sure, Not Even Dead and Amygdala are their best songs. Arch Enemy's Burning Bridges album. Check out the old GROTESQUE shit. Its Thomas Lindbergs band before At The Gates. The Crown have some good thrashier shit too. Ive heard tons of goods things about Arsis but have yet to be able to track down an album.
 
Some Power Metal gets a seriously bad rap at times. I can cite two examples where the lead guitar delivers the melody together with the vocals: Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray. Indeed, much of the time, the guitar leads are actually harmonized with the lead vocals.

Definitely true with (modern) Blind Guardian. Their whole compositional style is based on layers of melodies and constant lead guitar. But people only still refer to Blind Guardian as "power metal" for historical reasons. Today they're really one of those 10% of bands without a genre, because no one else writes music like them (well, except for that last Sigh album, which I noted previously for its oddness).

I don't know about Gamma Ray though. They're one of my favorite bands, but they're pretty much stereotypical "power metal" in their compositional style. Maybe a nice lick at the end of each line in the verse, but then usually standard power-chord-backed choruses. Is there a particular GR album/song that I'm not thinking of?

Oh, and I liked the ranting version of this post better! Why the edit? Is the moderator going to ban you for railing off-topic?

Neil