I was being sarcastic...
EDIT: The price is insanely inflated, as the demand is high enough to warrant it. Legalizing it would make prices plummet - killing off organized crime as well as reducing the amount of theft necessary to fund habits - so I don't think that argument would help. People don't avoid heroin and speed because they're illegal (especially the ones who smoke pot), they avoid them because they do fucked up shit to anyone who gets near them. END EDIT
Drugs and alcohol are no excuse for violent behavior - we have violence and theft from the sober and peace from junkies. If people can't handle themselves when on drugs then they should be prosecuted for their actual crimes.
Alcohol can do insane things to people, but we don't see it banned - and do you remember why?
The main point is that we're only making the real problems - gang wars, theft for drug funding, et cetera (not to mention tons of problems abroad from countries like Colombia and Afghanistan whose economies have a huge hit coming from cocaine and opium, respectively, and who would be unbelievably better off without drug lords running everything) - worse. I think that legalizing those 'hard drugs' would reduce a lot of problems, and make other problems much more manageable. If people are stumbling around or causing fights while drunk, we toss them in the drunk tank - do you really think nothing would be done for public nuisances on any other substance?
I guess I'm coming from a different perspective - I'm not sold on the whole interfering-with-others'-behavior-in-any-respect-not-directly-harmful-to-me aspect of government, so I'd rather handle problems like violence and theft on their own than try to blame problems on substances and pretend that criminalizing them will accomplish something. When we ban the hard drugs we bring about problems with organized crime both here and abroad, the best thing we can do is learn to deal with cokeheads and speed freaks the same way we deal with drunks - lock them up if they cause problems, try to get people to either keep control or be controlled if they're a threat to anyone. You can't leave something like alcohol legal with all of the hell it 'causes' and then hold concerns like that for other drugs. Doesn't fucking work that way.
Jeff
Helllllooooo bullshit. This is one of those times you should probably stop talking, as it is obvious you are clueless about the facts of this issue.
It is everyone's right to have control over their body. The constitution guarantees it, and thus habeas corpus exteends to whatever the fuck you want to shoot in your own body. Conservative and liberal faggots who think the government has that right should die!And this is the best part right here, that the government believes it has the right to tell us what we can and cannot ingest, let alone a substance our body already naturally creates.
so's religion
A lot of science is based on theory and speculation and assumption as well.
And it better not be because of the ledmag/Shpongled cat fight, there was other good stuff in that thread.
Someone's got some 'splainin to do.
And this is the best part right here, that the government believes it has the right to tell us what we can and cannot ingest, let alone a substance our body already naturally creates.
Ohh, and using the argument that legalizing drugs will cause more addiction and crime is pure bullshit speculation and is unfounded. There is way to much nonsense in this thread being seemingly passed off as "facts." Do your homework children.
Consider how many people steal to pay for their smokes.
If you legalize the drugs like heroin (I know plenty of people who dropped heroin but couldn't quit fucking smoking, go figure) the price goes down tremendously. Cigarettes are taxed to fuck and back, and they're still affordable. Hell, get a bag of some good cocaine and blow it (no pun intended) in a couple of days... and for the same amount of money you could've just bought a box of fucking good cigars. How many people steal for smokes and booze? These 'hard drugs' have artificially inflated prices due to the war on drugs (and, as a result, greater profit margins for the lords - and then more motivation to push them on people) and if you drop that the price will plummet.
Jeff
See... saying something is the case isn't the same as proving it. It's not like I'm just pulling a random assertion out of my ass and pretending it's the truth. Go to a fucking college campus and you can't say that hard shit isn't pretty readily available.
Oh, and by the way I'm going to be that oddball that you don't think exists - I'm for legalizing everything because I think the drug war is making it worse.
EDIT: Let's play source-the-statement... http://www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/nicaddct.html
Jeff
Your the only one proving anything in this thread. The proof being in your avatar....your mouth is really big, and your ugly. You know what you could stuff in your mouth to shut it dont you? Oh you dont....a big fat COCK.
the world would be a better place without you! it really would. Some the advantages of you not existing include: less oxygen consumption, less carbon dioxide emitions, and more importantly less idiots and assholes in the world!
go ahead! Thus far you only entertained me! Now lets see how angry can i make you, will you call the cops again if threaten to lunch nuclear bison semen in your general direction? Please do, so some cop laughs at you while eating a cheap greasy McDonald's burger, while you cry to him about getting stripped of your honor on the internet.Oh really? lets see, if you did not exist......Children would be safe, your mom wouldnt have those terrible stretch marks, your dads ass would be safe when he passes out drunk on his stomach.
Shall I continue? Because I can, i really can. I can fill the board up with your name.....just let me know FRIEND.