Hooray, it's a race riot!

I thought that too gore... I can understand them coming out to "protect" the mosque... but they had NO reason whatsoever to then form a convoy and head towards the beaches. Why the cops let them leave is beyond me!

Especially since they got to the beaches ahead of the cops and destroyed stores, beat up innocent people (including stabbing one woman and beating another guy almost to death because he was putting his rubbish out) and so on.

I'm expecting this to eventually boil over into a face to face between the two "gangs".... I'll put money who's the first to pull a gun
 
TinMan666 said:
I never even heard about that!

Sounds about right though.

Two nights in a row... Sunday night a convoy of apparently 40 cars or something full of middle easterns carrying baseball bats and stuff drove down from Punchbowl and smashed up over 100 cars along Maroubra Rd, and they stabbed some guy outside a golf course in Wooloware (actually I saw an article that said there was 2 stabbings that night). Then Monday night another massive convoy of cars full of "youths of middle eastern appearance" (fuck it pisses me off how the media try to be so politically correct with their descriptions) hit Cronulla itself and did the same at the Cronulla shopping centre, smashed up all the cars parked there, store windows, few bashings, etc.

The fact that you hadn't heard about that part is exactly my point too. Why is all the media focus on the behavior of the dudes at the beach when most of the violence & destruction has been by the middle eastern community retaliating against the beach riot (which was a retaliation to the years of violence & abuse by the middle eastern gangs anyway).

And another thing about all the racism claims, I know for a fact that there is just as much (or maybe even more) racism & hatred towards Australia & anglo-saxon Australians by the ethnic community but that part gets ignored coz we're not the minority.

Oh yeah and I had an ex-girlfriend a few years ago who lived in Broadmeadows (for those not from Melbourne, a very muslim area in the western suburbs) and one thing I remember that stood out, because being from the SE suburbs myself I didn't understand it as I'd never felt threatened in the suburbs before, was that she wouldn't walk home from the station which was only a couple of blocks away, and didn't even like waiting in the station car park to be picked up, because of the all the gangs. She didn't even want me waiting at the station in case something happened to me.
 
Oh yeah and I reckon the Lakemba mosque thing was hilarious too! It really shows the difference in the way people from that side of the world are raised to think compared to us. First thing they think is that we are gonna go to their area and destroy their mosque? Just further reinforces the way the first thing they think of doing themselves is coming to the white areas and smashing stuff up.
 
I also laughed at little inconsitency.... we are constantly told that these "arab criminals" aren't muslim's because their actions go against the teachings of allah. Then why did they all come out in force to protect a place they don't even believe in?
 
hot damn. :(

That's crazy shit what's going on up there, and like you guys said, I hadn't even heard about half of it, because the media seem to be too scared to be non-politically-correct... probably because they're scared of being branded as racists.

I have trouble understanding the racial side of these things because I grew up in an area that was probably about 95% 'white' people, and there was still no shortage of thugs, bullies and arseholes in general. So... for every run in I had with (for example) a lebanese guy threatening to come back with all his cousins, I'd had half a dozen with Aussies, poms or whatever. So i always have a tendency to think "it's not a racial issue, it's just that people are arseholes in general, regardless of race".

This does seem like a race issue though.
 
In the last two nights in Auburn, a christmas carols night has been shot at (with school kids as young as 5 inside), a chinese church (I can't remember the actual religion) has had bricks and rocks thrown through the windows and now a Uniting Church has gone up in flames.

How long before someone retaliates on the mosque in Auburn? Watch the shit hit the fan then... and watch everyone come out of the woodwork about how "insensitive" it is to do such a thing and how we are all racist. I am really getting tired of being constantly told by the media that I am a racist bogan because I am a (in their words) "white australian"
 
I just read a pretty good article on the subject at http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17558483-5001030,00.html

It is a small minority of mindless Lebanese and white morons who are playing the "race card" as a cover to work off some testosterone, to show their violent streak and carry out brutal attacks on each other and innocent bystanders.

I think that pretty much sums it up for me.

Lock up the Aussie trouble makers and revoke the residency of the Lebanese ones and send them home. That's what I think.
 
You would assume so... but then there have been cases in the detention centres of foreign-born couples being kicked out of the country, while their Australian-born children are sent off as well. Something like that, anyway.
 
SA media has blown it into a big deal, its been plastered over all the current affairs shows and newspapers. Of course they dont get to point of origin but continue to hark on "racist" elements and talk of how it looks like a neo-nazi arranged affair.

Also there was a big spread on how Muslim women are being persecuted and called names, spat on etc in the st. and how the Muslim community fear riotious behaviour here. Already they've tied an assault on a Leb taxi driver to the riots...
 
TinMan666 said:
I have trouble understanding the racial side of these things because I grew up in an area that was probably about 95% 'white' people, and there was still no shortage of thugs, bullies and arseholes in general. So... for every run in I had with (for example) a lebanese guy threatening to come back with all his cousins, I'd had half a dozen with Aussies, poms or whatever. So i always have a tendency to think "it's not a racial issue, it's just that people are arseholes in general, regardless of race".

This does seem like a race issue though.
Same here. I grew up in a country town with no diversity at all, and I now live in a city that has the second highest percentage of anglo-saxon population in Australia, so I haven't been exposed to many foreign born people or racial issues at all, so I had a tendancy to think the same way.
 
I grew up in a very white Australian suburb and there's never been any racial issues around there but obviously being in a big city you're only ever a short train ride away from extremely multicultural suburbs where there is that. Some friends of myself & my sister got bashed & robbed by a Lebanese gang a couple of years ago... Also, although my suburbs I grew up in (East Bentleigh, Murrumbeena and Black Rock) are very white Australian, Bentleigh & Murrumbeena are only 1 suburb from Oakleigh which has a huge "wog" population and they actually have a gang there called the "Oakleigh Wogs" who put a big OW logo on every wall in the suburb and cause a bit of trouble (I remember being chased through a park by a bunch of them one night), and when I went to high school in Chadstone which is the first suburb north of Oakleigh, there were a few racial squabbles at a couple of stages, particularly between the "wog" group (many of whom had brothers or cousins in the Oakleigh Wogs, which they loved bragging about) and the Aussie footy players, most of which were from my primary school in East Bentleigh. I remember alot of tension at one stage following a huge brawl on one of the ovals about who's oval it was, the footy players' or the wogs, and all the year levels were involved and the couple of weeks after that were pretty tense between people of different nationalities and the school had to have all these anti-racism themes at the masses and assemblies. Then of course the next few suburbs past Oakleigh on the Dandenong line have alot of Asian gangs (Clayton, Springvale, Noble Park) and it can be quite scary in Noble Park at night time if you're white, it reminds me of the cold feeling of South Central LA that comes across in Boyz N The Hood, its very isolated there and you feel like you're trespassing on someone else's territory.

Let's not even go into the western suburbs, lol. That entire side of the city is suburb after suburb of Noble Parks. I can't stand it! I remember waiting alone at Albion station one night, with an abandoned warehouse on one side of me and a carpark on the other where a bunch of dudes stole a car right in front of my eyes, I was only there for a few minutes!

I think the problem isn't so much race, as much as it is crime. There is just too much crime that is too easy to get away with, and people know they can walk over the law and police can't do much (and aren't willing to do much) about it. And that lack of authority that the law seems to have is what allows suburbs to get overrun by minorities of thugs who want to claim that suburb as their own race's territory, and the reason they want to do that goes back to what I said in the first post about their parents not making an effort to bring them up to fit in to Australian society so I guess they don't feel like the belong anywhere. If only their parents encouraged them to speak English at home, socialise outside of their own ethnic circle, and not drill blind patriotism of their "homeland" into them which often makes them resent or disrespect the country they are living in and were probably born in anyway most of the time, they would probably not feel a need to have to claim certain areas as their own and terrorize those who come into their zones who aren't of their race (which is probably how they feel about being in Australia some of the time, I think less because of how they are treated by Australians and more because of how their parents bring them up at home).
 
I reckon if a few of these troublemakers were threatened with deportation, regardless of being citizens or not, they would be scared stupid. As much as they carry on about being Lebanese or wherever they're "from", I guarantee they wouldn't like to be sent there. It would be interesting to see how long they'd last trying to drive around Beirut in their souped-up Matchbox cars and acting like they own the place. It's only because Australia is such a pluralist nation that this sort of behaviour can occur. That goes for the Asian gangs as well. If they carried on in Vietnam like they do here, they'd be shot. In fact, if I had anything to do with it, I'd round up some of these losers and take them back to their "homeland" to see how fucking lucky they are they actually live where they do.
 
Damn well said guys.

I wasn't born here and even though I do have my little whinges here and there, I love it here and I can't imagine anywhere else I'd rather live.

Except maybe Canada. I know some hot chicks with massive tits in Canada.
 
TinMan666 said:
Damn well said guys.

I wasn't born here and even though I do have my little whinges here and there, I love it here and I can't imagine anywhere else I'd rather live.

Except maybe Canada. I know some hot chicks with massive tits in Canada.

where are you from Dave?