How high are metal cd budgets these days?...

ahhh well, that makes more sense now.
Thanks for clearing that up Ermz!

Still pretty hefty

edit: but I recon the amount of editing for this style alone is a pretty huge bulk of the overall time needed
 
Copycat? The guy has got the right image,the sound is great,very polished.His website looks simple yet professional.
And he is relevant as fuck,which is most important,no wonder he's got proper management and it's just another proof that skills and attitude are way more important than fancy gear and "audiophile" approach (live drums,amps,etc).
I despise some local guys who advertise on gumtree saying shit like: We got £10k Pro tools,so only that can give you real sound... at the same time they
spit out crap mixes and charge £100/mix. fucking losers.
 
The card rate for Albini in his A room is $1400/day + tape + lodging. I don't know what HoF spent but I've known a band that dropped $10k on what amounted to a live in studio type session with mix in one week with Albini.
 
Copycat? The guy has got the right image,the sound is great,very polished.His website looks simple yet professional.
And he is relevant as fuck,which is most important,no wonder he's got proper management and it's just another proof that skills and attitude are way more important than fancy gear and "audiophile" approach (live drums,amps,etc).
I despise some local guys who advertise on gumtree saying shit like: We got £10k Pro tools,so only that can give you real sound... at the same time they
spit out crap mixes and charge £100/mix. fucking losers.

Eaxctly
Super like for this...
i think he is a great AE
and does an awesome job
 
Copycat? The guy has got the right image,the sound is great,very polished.His website looks simple yet professional.
And he is relevant as fuck,which is most important,no wonder he's got proper management and it's just another proof that skills and attitude are way more important than fancy gear and "audiophile" approach (live drums,amps,etc).
I despise some local guys who advertise on gumtree saying shit like: We got £10k Pro tools,so only that can give you real sound... at the same time they
spit out crap mixes and charge £100/mix. fucking losers.

+ studio time at £25/hour :lol:
 
he's got proper management and it's just another proof that skills and attitude are way more important than fancy gear and "audiophile" approach (live drums,amps,etc).

Dude, I think that's the saddest thing I've read on this forum.

I think that's a terrible attitude and you should not be involved in making music, by that I mean audiophile music (songs, melody, meaning etc.)... but do carry on making relevant "music"
 
For the record, for the suggested $30k to record 10 songs where you don't actually record in a 9x9 room you could go to fascination street or audio hammer or fredman or backstage or electrical audio or a hundred other "relevant" places that use the Audiophile Method™.
 
For the record, for the suggested $30k to record 10 songs where you don't actually record in a 9x9 room you could go to fascination street or audio hammer or fredman or backstage or electrical audio or a hundred other "relevant" places that use the Audiophile Method™.


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Great for that guy to be successful, but charging 3000$/song for those crappy productions...
 
For the record, for the suggested $30k to record 10 songs where you don't actually record in a 9x9 room you could go to fascination street or audio hammer or fredman or backstage or electrical audio or a hundred other "relevant" places that use the Audiophile Method™.

But you wont get the sound or the speed the band wants. This EZD, PodFarm thing is for shear SPEED. Look at the amount or records Rise and similar lables are putting out. Bands no longer take 4 months in the studio to record, they are in and out in 2 week with a mix 2 weeks later. The days of spending a year making an album with a 10 million dollar budget are long gone.

The record industry just wants speed and quality. Nowadays they just throw shit at the wall and hope something sticks. For every band that fails there is a band like Attack Attack or Chelsea Grin that makes them 10 times what they invested in the one record that put those bands on the map. They roll that right into making 10 more records hoping something else will stick.

The music industry is automated factory now. "Audiophiles" have no place in the current music industry. Its pretty fucking sad.

EDIT: Oh and not to mention they use these things cause of lack of talent as well.
 
Paying someone a lot of money to mix with superior and ampsims? No thanks, that I can do it myself. I would pay for someone who really knows how to mix real instruments and with real bands.

I am not saying that someone like sturgis doesnt have abilities to mix, he puts killer mixes but mixing with superior when you can click some button to remove the bleed of the mics and using podfarm with metal packs with some tricks here and there to sound brOOtlz it´s not so hard as it seems.
 
But you wont get the sound or the speed the band wants. This EZD, PodFarm thing is for shear SPEED. Look at the amount or records Rise and similar lables are putting out. Bands no longer take 4 months in the studio to record, they are in and out in 2 week with a mix 2 weeks later. The days of spending a year making an album with a 10 million dollar budget are long gone.

Fair point on the sound, but as far as money and time goes, every one of the studios I suggested can crank out a complete mastered album in a month or two for the same money (or less) as was suggested that guy charges. That was the whole point of my post.
Honestly I view the superior/podfarm superstars as being producers in the hip-hop sense instead of the traditional sense. They're essentially co-writing the songs, programming or performing most of the parts and then the band provides vocals. I do honestly give the Sturgian Acolites their due for hard work and talent but if actually playing on your record makes me a snob then I'll happily don my top hat and monocle.