how many of you guys use C4 on your master??

[Brady k]

i ussually use it just to make my mix sound a little warmer , its an easy way to fix your mix,,,, but i notice it take a lot of hugeness away from the guitars?? anyone else notice this ??

 

[Zack Uidl]

I sometimes will use it, but only slightly. Just to take some unwanted frequencies, etc....nothing major going on with it though

 

[punkrockacademyfightsong]

I try to use it only to keep the low end controlled if needed. sometimes it works better for me to compress the low end rather than to turn it down.

 

[Zack Uidl]

+1 to that

 

[paladin shredder]

i prefer waves multimaximizer with the extreme analog profile

 

[crillemannen]

Always

 

[abyssofdreams]

never. fix it in the mix and you won't need it.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Never. I can see that it has it's uses, but I always try to minimize the need of multiband comping in the master bus.

 

[GarethSE]

never. fix it in the mix and you won't need it.

+10000

I only use mild compression on the bus to glue the mix together, like most of the peeps on here, but anything that changes the sound of the mix eq-wise? heyullnaww

 

[006]

It doesn't change the EQ, it merely compresses it. So it is still there. It's very useful if you have an overall woof that you don't want to EQ out, which would thin the mix out as well, but rather just comp it so that it doesn't...woof.

And I'd be surprised to hear any mastering engineers not using mbc...amateur and pro alike.

~006

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

And I'd be surprised to hear any mastering engineers not using mbc...amateur and pro alike.

~006

Yes, I'm sure many talented mastering engineers can get great results with it, by I am by no means calling myself an ME, and I have liked the results a lot more when I try to fix it in the mix. If I was in the position of having all my mixes sent to professional mastering, that would be a completely different case.

 

[abyssofdreams]

I'm not saying that it is basically not making sense to use MBC at a mastering stage.
But afaik mastering engineers only use it to basically fix things that maybe went wrong during mixing and rarely for character, am I wrong here?

So in other words... there wouldn't be any need for extra compression in MBC if otherwise it already sounds great without.

 

[ahjteam]

I use gvst gmulti, but the same thing essentially. It usually chops off only something like 3dB at max, just to keep things constant

 

[Damian B]

Sometimes I use it, but usually only in Wavelab when I'm mastering. I never really use it in a mix on the master bus.

 

[crillemannen]

Well i dont use it to "fix" the mix but to glue it all together. A very famous producer ..hmm guess who?? .. always uses a multiband c on the mstr bus.

 

[Joshua Wickman]

Well i dont use it to "fix" the mix but to glue it all together. A very famous producer ..hmm guess who?? .. always uses a multiband c on the mstr bus.

Does he mix through it or just throw it on for mastering when the mix is finished?

 

[Fox Mulder]

I'd never use multiband for mastering unless it's for subtle corrective purposes.
Most of the time I'd use Izotope Ozone, and when I'm feeling a bit lazy, C4
I'd always mix through the stuff I put in the master bus.

 

[crillemannen]

He puts it on when the mix is done for glue and then a compressor -3db or so,
as i said the meaning of mbc on the mstr bus is not to resuce a bad mix put to improve a good mix

Cheers

 

[Joshua Wickman]

Cool info, So C4 first then another compressor after it huh....

 

[crillemannen]

Yeah you should notice some "glue" effect if the MBC is applied correct. TC's MD3 is the shit btw kicks waves ass bigtime Mabye a bit expensive but you get a multiband comp, mstr bus comp, limiter and a tape simulator all at once, worht checking out..

Cheers