How much of the sound comes from the amp? how much from the cabinet? 50/50?

[AD Chaos]

been wondering about this

What do you people think would be more beneficial to have (for achieving variety of tone)
Two amps (different brands) and a cab, or two cabs (different) and a single amp?

much obliged

 

[crillemannen]

2 amps and 1 great cab. You cant achieve a great tone without at great cab/amp

 

[AD Chaos]

2 amps and 1 great cab. You cant achieve a great tone without at great cab and vice versa

You can't achieve a great cab without great tone?

..sorry for the joke, but I don't understand what you mean by that

 

[crillemannen]

You can't achieve a great cab without great tone?

..sorry for the joke, but I don't understand what you mean by that

Dobidoo

 

[AD Chaos]

gotcha :Spin:

 

[jval]

usually 100% of the sound comes from the cab.

get it? get it?

 

[Steven Otto]

not really :Spin:

 

[AD Chaos]

usually 100% of the sound comes from the cab.

get it? get it?

No, I don't get it

 

[Lasse Lammert]

A great amp is as important as or more important than a great cab, but the cab/speakers make a bigger difference than another amp.
definitely get a great amp and a great cab.
I'd say buying in this order makes sense:
great amp
great cab (v30)
cab t75
second amp
third cab

a good amp is mandatory but the speakers make a bigger difference.

 

[Ben Johnson]

No, I don't get it

All of the sound comes from the cabinet.

 

[AD Chaos]

Thank you Lasse - help at last

That's what I was asking
If you already have an amp and a cab, what would make more sense to buy/borrow (a second head or a second cab)

You're saying a second cab.. ok

crillemannen said the opposite

 

[Sickan]

Well it depends on what change you want in sound.

 

[crillemannen]

Thank you Lasse - help at last

That's what I was asking
If you already have an amp and a cab, what would make more sense to buy/borrow (a second head or a second cab)

You're saying a second cab.. ok

crillemannen said the opposite

The reason i said that is because i slave amps after each other when i record (fx loop out --> fx loop in) so i can blend 2 different sounds together without having to quad track. I've learn this in Studio Fredman and think its a great way to get a fatter tone.
So i always match 2 different tones with each other. But this acquires 2 different cabs aswell hehe..

But you can still quad track using 2 different amps/tone to get 1 awesome guitar sound.

 

[if6was9]

I'd say if you've already got a great head and cab, another head would be of more benifit than another cab for variety.
E.G I get alot more variety having the ENGL and JCM800 than I do in having a V30 loaded cab and a GT75 loaded one.

 

[Notuern]

The amp is by far the most important part in the entire chain.. its more important then what guitar or cab you use.
That being said, a shitty cab will make a good amp sound bad.. but a shitty amp will still sound bad through a good cab.

 

[FF666]

But, the sound doesn't come from the hands??
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...ng-guitar-tone-vsts-all-same.html#post9309158

I have been miking my right hand with a SM57 for several years

 

[TheWinterSnow]

As long as we are not talking about entry level stack setups, tone or quality is really arbitrary to each players ears. With that in mind, if you have both a great amp and cab setup, a different cab and guitar/pickups will make more of a difference in the tone than an amp will. The only huge difference an amp will make in the tone is the way the frequencies across the spectrum of your guitar are clipped, which changes the balance of harmonics of the distortion itself, but overall, not anything that is big in the sense of night and day, for the most part.

The biggest improvement that you can do if you have both a shit amp and a shit head is to get a better amp, as from my experience low quality amps are not musical with their distortion, then get a cab. But even we are talking about semi-decent amp, you would be better off getting a better cab first.

 

[AD Chaos]

The reason i said that is because i slave amps after each other when i record (fx loop out --> fx loop in) so i can blend 2 different sounds together without having to quad track. I've learn this in Studio Fredman and think its a great way to get a fatter tone.
So i always match 2 different tones with each other. But this acquires 2 different cabs aswell hehe..

But you can still quad track using 2 different amps/tone to get 1 awesome guitar sound.

Yes, that's what I had in mind. Blending two different tones into one for fatter sound, or also say, having a lead tone on the one hand, and a different rhythm tone, complementing each other within a song. I think I've seen some talk about that here, but I wonder how that can be achieved if you already have one good head and one good cab.

 

[AD Chaos]

But, the sound doesn't come from the hands??
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...ng-guitar-tone-vsts-all-same.html#post9309158

I have been miking my right hand with a SM57 for several years

Please, do not :Spam:

 

[AHChris]

I recently updated my Engl Standart (it´s hilarious that they´re spelling it like this^^) to a Mesa OS and I think that a good cab simply points out the good stuff in your tone and removes the bad stuff a bit. It´s shaping the tone, a bit like a one-setting-EQ. My amps don´t have a different character with the new cab... It´s basically the same sound, it´s just fatter, crunchier and deeper but I can still recognize my amps^^

So I´d say: One good cab is enough, get a variety of amps for different texture and flavour.