I can't believe there isn't a thread about Peter Wichers rejoining Soilwork on here..

I enjoyed the album they did without Wichers roughly as much as the previous two they did with him (that is, about 10% as much as I enjoyed Steelbath through Natural).

:rolleyes:

I really don't understand anyone who feels this way. They've put out consistently amazing albums. I would tell you to lay off the crackpipe, but ultimately everyone has their opinion, and I respect yours.
 
Awesome news! Wichers songwriting is fantastic.

I enjoyed all their albums, especially Predator and Chaos. Although I didn't really get into Sworn To A Great Divide... the actual songs were lacking in my opinion, even with Dev producing the vocals. Thought it could have done with Peter's input... but that's just me :)

I also loved Stabbing The Drama, even though it was quite nu-metally. Brilliant choruses.
 
I really don't understand anyone who feels this way. They've put out consistently amazing albums. I would tell you to lay off the crackpipe, but ultimately everyone has their opinion, and I respect yours.

That's cool -- I often listen to albums everyone else seems to be raving about and am left wondering if there's some new over the counter anti-boredom medication I missed hearing about. :goggly:

SW's production and performances are still top notch, no question, and they're still better than most of the groups out there, but the band and I generally don't agree on what constitutes a really great metal song anymore -- "musical differences" if you will. :) Tastes change and people grow and artists evolve and often in different directions. The longer a relationship lasts, the more likely it is to happen. [shrug] I still buy everything they release, but Soilwork and I defintely started down divergent paths in 2003. If it gets to a point where we can't even keep things together for the kids, it will be a no-fault divorce.
 
That's cool -- I often listen to albums everyone else seems to be raving about and am left wondering if there's some new over the counter anti-boredom medication I missed hearing about. :goggly:

SW's production and performances are still top notch, no question, and they're still better than most of the groups out there, but the band and I generally don't agree on what constitutes a really great metal song anymore -- "musical differences" if you will. :) Tastes change and people grow and artists evolve and often in different directions. The longer a relationship lasts, the more likely it is to happen. [shrug] I still buy everything they release, but Soilwork and I defintely started down divergent paths in 2003. If it gets to a point where we can't even keep things together for the kids, it will be a no-fault divorce.

I'm with you... Steelbath and Chainheart are two of the best metal releases ever, everything else they have done since those 2 albums are not for me at all. They aren't a riff oriented band anymore, it's all about choruses and catchy vocal lines. Bring on the new Darkane please, they are the only melodic death metal band from Sweden who still bring the win.
 
Great news! I dig Soilwork immensely with or without him, but Warrel Dane's solo album is a good reminder of how awesome Wichers is. Glad he's back...
 
I personally love Figure Number 5 - I don't see any reason to hate a good catchy chorus as long as there's still some musical integrity still there, and I feel FNF doesn't disappoint - in fact, my favorite albums of theirs, in order, are Predator's Portrait, FNF, Chainheart, Stabbing the Drama, Natural Born Chaos (honestly, this one might be amazingly produced and have some real classic Soilwork songs on it, but I think there's also a disproportionally large number of awful songs as well, namely Mindfields, The Bringer, No More Angels, Mercury Shadow, and even Song for the Damned, despite it's awesome beginning), and Sworn bringing up the rear (but still not bad, and honestly not as many shitty songs IMO as NBC, but also not as many downright amazing ones). I haven't listened to Steelbath, so I can't rank that one.
 
They aren't a riff oriented band anymore, it's all about choruses and catchy vocal lines.

I personally love Figure Number 5 - I don't see any reason to hate a good catchy chorus as long as there's still some musical integrity still there


Funny thing is, I don't find their recent choruses and vocal melodies particularly catchy at all. I definitely get the impression that's what they're going for, and I can see how they would possibly seem successful at it if the rest of my musical diet consisted mainly of more extreme metal, but it doesn't. When I first got into SW they were just about the heaviest thing I listened to, and it was their early albums' guitar riffs' simultaneous complexity and catchiness (and in some cases, grooooviness even) that got me hooked. But now that they're (apparently) concentrating on vocal hooks, I have no choice but to compare their albums against the multitude of other, lighter bands in my collection that have always written songs around catchy vocal melodies and are frankly a lot better at it.

SW seem to dig the place they're in musically right now (recent membership changes notwithstanding) and their fanbase seems no lesser for it, so more power to them. Not enough people get to do what they love and love what they do. But if a friend who loves Dio or Kings X or old Def Leppard asks me, "What modern bands am I missing out on?", I definitely wouldn't recommend a post-NBC Soilwork album and expect him to ever ask my opinion a second time. :)
 
OH MY GOD YES!!!

Pete and Ola are two of my fave living guitarists along with Mr Murphy.
I love Soilwork to the max!!! I don't really listen to them for metal riffing more for the tasteful as FUCK solos, awesome singing and epic synths!!
My faves are NBC and APP. This is awesome as fuck!