I need websites that sell funny T-shirts

[Chromatose]

hahaha! yes, yes it is.

edit: I love this part of the thoseshirts.com FAQ btw::

Are your shirts made in America?

Sometimes the blank shirts we buy from Champion, Hanes and Gildan are assembled in Central America. But the design, printing, and processing are all done by entrepreneurial Americans in small businesses. There's not much we can do about the blanks if we want to continue providing the highest quality shirts at a decent price.



People often ask why we don't use American Apparel, whose factory is located in Los Angeles. Several reasons: 1) Their products are too expensive. 2) They openly admit that half of their workers are illegal immigrants with phony documents. 3) They support amnesty and open borders. 4) They are a "progressive" company whose stated goal is to infuse socialism into American capitalism. And 5) They donate money to the Democratic Party.



All other Made-in-America apparel we are aware of comes from similar "alternative/progressive" companies, mostly using union labor. As you may know, labor unions are an arm of the Democratic Party. (See here: How Socialist Unions Rule the Democratic Party). One of these companies even sells a line of Kerry/Edwards products alongside their blank apparel.



The point is, supporting the idea of "Made in America" involves more than just the location of factories. So we stand by our capitalist, union-busting apparel.

 

[neal]

So we stand by our capitalist, union-busting apparel.

hahaha fuck you

 

[Tide In Mind Out]

Cara: that website you gave me actually helped me find a shirt for
someone who is soooooo hard to shop for, and now I found the ultimate gift for him

thanks a million!

you're welcome a million! *deflowers*

 

[Loner]

hahaha! yes, yes it is.

edit: I love this part of the thoseshirts.com FAQ btw::

Are your shirts made in America?

Sometimes the blank shirts we buy from Champion, Hanes and Gildan are assembled in Central America. But the design, printing, and processing are all done by entrepreneurial Americans in small businesses. There's not much we can do about the blanks if we want to continue providing the highest quality shirts at a decent price.



People often ask why we don't use American Apparel, whose factory is located in Los Angeles. Several reasons: 1) Their products are too expensive. 2) They openly admit that half of their workers are illegal immigrants with phony documents. 3) They support amnesty and open borders. 4) They are a "progressive" company whose stated goal is to infuse socialism into American capitalism. And 5) They donate money to the Democratic Party.



All other Made-in-America apparel we are aware of comes from similar "alternative/progressive" companies, mostly using union labor. As you may know, labor unions are an arm of the Democratic Party. (See here: How Socialist Unions Rule the Democratic Party). One of these companies even sells a line of Kerry/Edwards products alongside their blank apparel.



The point is, supporting the idea of "Made in America" involves more than just the location of factories. So we stand by our capitalist, union-busting apparel.

Jesus Christ, do these fucktards honestly believe the shit they've got on their site?
I found this one particularly ironic since their beloved Bush has done more to supress our rights and freedoms than any other president: http://www.thoseshirts.com/nor.html

And the only reason those bastards hate unions is because without them, greedy buisness owners could get away with fucking their workers more, which would allow them to hoard more of their God that they all ready have way too much of (money) to themselves.

Fuck this Fox news loving company.

 

[Loner]

Man, I just found another winner from that ass raping site:
http://www.thoseshirts.com/coulter.html

If that doesn't make you sick, kill yourself.

 

[unknown]

One of the best T-Shirts ever.

HAHA!

 

[Lord Foul]

And the only reason those bastards hate unions is because without them, greedy buisness owners could get away with fucking their workers more, which would allow them to hoard more of their God that they all ready have way too much of (money) to themselves.

Labor unions in this country are just as greedy, if not more so, than the companies they oppose. They are also just as bad about contributing campaign money to politicians they think will give them more power. The Company vs Union business model is a bad one anyhow.

 

[Loner]

Without unions, more places would be like Wal-Mart when it comes to fucking over their employees. You can say unions are greedy, but at least they help people. Why should higher-ups in companies make more in a year than most people will in a lifetime? Because they were born into a "money family"? Because they sucked dick (corporate and/or politician) to get where they are at? Because their daddy actually worked hard for their inherited empire?

The rich love capitalism in it's rawest form because it lets them fuck over anyone they choose in order make more money, but it keeps just enough government to protect them from people they've trampled. Unions give the workers power to bite back (or at least they did until "Reganomics" raped their power). If you need some historical examples, I suggest you read into the History of the West Virginia mining industry. Now, I'm not saying all buisness owners are crooked, greedy bastards, but ther are more than enough of them to warrant the existence of unions. Beyond wages and insurance, unions give workers numerous rights that make the workplace safer, and give them a level of job security (as opposed to just being fired for any reason at any time). If more comapnies were like the Japanese automakers that have opened factories in the US, unions wouldn't be so vital, but unfortuately we are a nation of greedy bastards.

You can argue that unions are related to socialism, but our economic system is already a hybrid anyways, as it should be.

 

[FretsAflame]

Without unions, more places would be like Wal-Mart when it comes to fucking over their employees. You can say unions are greedy, but at least they help people. Why should higher-ups in companies make more in a year than most people will in a lifetime? Because they were born into a "money family"? Because they sucked dick (corporate and/or politician) to get where they are at? Because their daddy actually worked hard for their inherited empire?

The rich love capitalism in it's rawest form because it lets them fuck over anyone they choose in order make more money, but it keeps just enough government to protect them from people they've trampled. Unions give the workers power to bite back (or at least they did until "Reganomics" raped their power). If you need some historical examples, I suggest you read into the History of the West Virginia mining industry. Now, I'm not saying all buisness owners are crooked, greedy bastards, but ther are more than enough of them to warrant the existence of unions. Beyond wages and insurance, unions give workers numerous rights that make the workplace safer, and give them a level of job security (as opposed to just being fired for any reason at any time). If more comapnies were like the Japanese automakers that have opened factories in the US, unions wouldn't be so vital, but unfortuately we are a nation of greedy bastards.

You can argue that unions are related to socialism, but our economic system is already a hybrid anyways, as it should be.

Every single human on this planet is greedy, you do realize that? Also do you even know what capitalism is?

And actually;

Without unions, more places would be like Wal-Mart when it comes to fucking over their employees. You can say unions are greedy, but at least they help people.

Unions in fact drive real wages down by opposing the machinations of wage increase and effectively monopolizing labor to the point that they *seem* to benefit marginally, while at the same time disenfranchising millions. All this while they claim to be striving for the betterment of society.

 

[Loner]

Every single human on this planet is greedy, you do realize that? Also do you even know what capitalism is?

And actually;



Unions in fact drive real wages down by opposing the machinations of wage increase and effectively monopolizing labor to the point that they *seem* to benefit marginally, while at the same time disenfranchising millions. All this while they claim to be striving for the betterment of society.

Let history speak:
http://www.wvculture.org/hiStory/minewars.html

 

[FretsAflame]

Let history speak:
http://www.wvculture.org/hiStory/minewars.html

Sorry, I'll just let fact speak.

If you'd like to prove to me and the rest of the board that unions help people and don't hurt them, and aren't greedy, and are a good thing then go right ahead. But if all you're going to do is post a link and expect me to read through all of that with no explanation or highlights then sorry. Put up or shut up, the burden of proof lies on you who brought your unsupported opinion to this thread.

 

[Loner]

Sorry, I'll just let fact speak.

If you'd like to prove to me and the rest of the board that unions help people and don't hurt them, and aren't greedy, and are a good thing then go right ahead. But if all you're going to do is post a link and expect me to read through all of that with no explanation or highlights then sorry. Put up or shut up, the burden of proof lies on you who brought your unsupported opinion to this thread.

I'm guessing you probably haven't even worked the kind of job where you'd normally see a union.
Since you're too lazy to read into something your high-horse riding ass wants to rant ignorantly about, here's a taste:

On March 12, 1883, the first carload of coal was transported from Pocahontas in Tazewell County, Virginia, on the Norfolk and Western Railway. This new railroad opened a gateway to the untapped coalfields of southwestern West Virginia, precipitating a dramatic population increase. Virtually overnight, new towns were created as the region was transformed from an agricultural to industrial economy. With the lure of good wages and inexpensive housing, thousands of European immigrants rushed into southern West Virginia. In addition, a large number of African Americans migrated from the southern states. The McDowell County black population alone increased from 0.1 percent in 1880 to 30.7 percent in 1910.
Most of these new West Virginians soon became part of an economic system controlled by the coal industry. Miners worked in company mines with company tools and equipment, which they were required to lease. The rent for company housing and cost of items from the company store were deducted from their pay. The stores themselves charged over-inflated prices, since there was no alternative for purchasing goods. To ensure that miners spent their wages at the store, coal companies developed their own monetary system. Miners were paid by scrip, in the form of tokens, currency, or credit, which could be used only at the company store. Therefore, even when wages were increased, coal companies simply increased prices at the company store to balance what they lost in pay.
Miners were also denied their proper pay through a system known as cribbing. Workers were paid based on tons of coal mined. Each car brought from the mines supposedly held a specific amount of coal, such as 2,000 pounds. However, cars were altered to hold more coal than the specified amount, so miners would be paid for 2,000 pounds when they actually had brought in 2,500. In addition, workers were docked pay for slate and rock mixed in with the coal. Since docking was a judgment on the part of the checkweighman, miners were frequently cheated.
In addition to the poor economic conditions, safety in the mines was of great concern. West Virginia fell far behind other major coal-producing states in regulating mining conditions. Between 1890 and 1912, West Virginia had a higher mine death rate than any other state. West Virginia was the site of numerous deadly coal mining accidents, including the nation's worst coal disaster. On December 6, 1907, an explosion at a mine owned by the Fairmont Coal Company in Monongah, Marion County, killed 361. One historian has suggested that during World War I, a U.S. soldier had a better statistical chance of surviving in battle than did a West Virginian working in the coal mines.
In response to poor conditions and low wages in the late 1800s, workers in most industries developed unions. Strikes generally focused on a specific problem, lasted short periods of time, and were confined to small areas. During the 1870s and 1880s, there were several attempts to combine local coal mining unions into a national organization. After several unsuccessful efforts, the United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) was formed in Columbus, Ohio, in 1890. In its first ten years, the UMWA successfully organized miners in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. Attempts to organize West Virginia failed in 1892, 1894, 1895, and 1897.

 

[FretsAflame]

I'm guessing you've never taken an economics course, or at least you didn't pay attention during it. This, I think, is a fair guess, as opposed to your baseless assumption that I have not worked a job where unions are present.

Regardless, what's your point? I never said that unions serve no useful or legitimate function, only that your assumptions about unions and their effects on society are ridiculously wrong.

The problem with unions is that it is easy for them to exceed their legitimate functions due to the one-sided nature of labor legislation. The true value of unions lies in the economics of information, but they often engage in short-sighted and anti-social policy.

The conditions you described are horrible, but they in no way counteract anything I have said. Let me refresh your memory.

Every single human on this planet is greedy, you do realize that? Also do you even know what capitalism is?

And actually;

Unions in fact drive real wages down by opposing the machinations of wage increase and effectively monopolizing labor to the point that they *seem* to benefit marginally, while at the same time disenfranchising millions. All this while they claim to be striving for the betterment of society.

Unions in their current state benefit no one in the long run, and are actually a detriment to society. Prove me wrong in your own words or gtfo.

Honestly just make a point of your own without quoting something that has nothing to do with what I said and I'll be happy.

 

[Loner]

I guess all the families that would've gone without health insurace without unions don't matter "in the long run".

 

[neal]

I guess all the families that would've gone without health insurace without unions don't matter "in the long run".

or the fact that at my former job my wages were higher and my health benifits better than someone doing the same job at a non-union company. like, way higher and way better. Unions are greedy and corrupt, but so are companies. at least the unions help the worker. i havent taken an econ class since high school, so perhaps in the grand scheme of things they are somehow a detriment (which stevie you also havent given any evidense of besides saying it) to the overall economy...which ive heard in the past and the reasoning seemed kinda BS. how is helping the worker a bad thing?

 

[Loner]

or the fact that at my former job my wages were higher and my health benifits better than someone doing the same job at a non-union company. like, way higher and way better. Unions are greedy and corrupt, but so are companies. at least the unions help the worker. i havent taken an econ class since high school, so perhaps in the grand scheme of things they are somehow a detriment (which stevie you also havent given any evidense of besides saying it) to the overall economy...which ive heard in the past and the reasoning seemed kinda BS. how is helping the worker a bad thing?

But you should know that something must be accepted as fact when someone without firsthand experience says it in a condescending manner.
Even if someone born in 86 HAS worked a union job, they have probably done so under their parents' wings, so they are unlikely to have an understanding of what a "living wage" (something a lot more people would do without if we didn't have unions) is. Unions even raise the standards for non union wages, because employers don't want to give their employees a reason to join a union. If you took away unions, we'd see a decreace in wages, insurance, and working standards) at most all jobs, including those who aren't union right now. Let's see how the economy handles it when the government has to pick up the empolyers' slack, much like they have to do for Wal-Mart right now. But never mind all that, this guy's economics class told him unions are bad.

 

[neal]

skoal

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

This thread went crazy!

 

[Loner]

This thread went crazy!

Nah, if you want to see crazy, look at this super hypocritical shirt from the site that started my rant:

Once again, if this doesn't make you want to puke, please kill yoursef.

 

[Loner]

More bullshit courtesy of Ann Coulter (these are hilarious):
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0111.coulterwisdom.html

Tale a look at this dumb bitch's new book (which is sure to be loved by conservative Christians and Fox News):
Godless: The Church of Liberalism
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400054206/104-1474413-9095100?v=glance&n=283155


This kind of shit is no different than Islamic fundementalists calling everyone other than themselves infidels, and it's heading in the same direction. We are likely to see a modern holy war (under the thin guise of "spreading democracy") at the rate things are going.