I want one...

they are not your typical sales people ... actually they are trained to ease back
 
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OMFG.

car sales people suck dick. the only decent ones i've dealt with were at longo toyota, i think they are the largest toyota dealership in the country. they don't have to be assholes because they sell buy the fuckload. the dude i bought my truck from sent me christmas cards for a year or two afterwards, kinda cool.
 
they don't have to be assholes because they sell buy the fuckload.
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same thing with MINI dealers ... basically they just advise and write up the paperwork.

there are no discounts or deals even after 4 years on the market ... all go out at MSRP (more in CA) ...

the shadiest fuckers are the US make car dealers ... last year my friend wanted to trade in his Dodge Ram for another one ... a custom built one from their website ... when we went to the dealer the salesman had the balls to tell us that carpeting (not floormats) were additional charge ... because we are building it and not buying off the showroom floor.

speaking of that ... whatever happened with buying custom configured cars online ... some years ago a lot of car makers were goo goo ga ga over this ... then all of a sudden they never followed through.
 
yeah getting the options you want is pretty much impossible. shit it's fucking difficult enough to find a manual transmission in california, let alone something WITHOUT power windows and doorlocks. :bah:
 
fuckkk ... all you car freaks ... and movie freaks in general have to see this:

http://mirror.rtor.net/rendezvous20_04.mov

For years the word “Rendezvous” meant one thing to auto enthusiasts; a Ferrari 275GTB screaming through Paris in the early hours of the morning. I first learned of Rendezvous as a kid when my uncle introduced me to his (then new) VHS copy back in the late 80s. At the time I was just floored by the concept. Today I’m inspired by it.

C’etait un Rendezvous is the creation of the French filmmaker Claude Lelouch in 1976. Using a Ferrari 275 GTB early one August morning, Lelouch attached a camera to the bumper of the car and sped through the streets of Paris. He gave the driver a set route from Porte Dauphine, through the Louvre, to the Basilica of Sacre Coeur, which is straight through the heart of Paris. The driver is still unknown to this day, because Lelouch was never able to obtain a permit to close the streets. The driver, who Lelouch told officials was an F1 racer, went over the speed limit and blew off many red lights. When this film was first shown, Lelouch was arrested, and because of this, the footage has spent many years underground before it began to resurface on DVD a few years ago. Lelouch used a new technology of the time, a gyro stabilized camera mount, in order to mount the camera on the car. The problem with this is that the technology of the time only allowed for a ten minute film with this mount. Lelouch told his driver to rush because of this time limit, and the video itself is only about nine minutes. In our velocity graph, we used all footage of the car when it was in motion.

The resulting ten minutes are priceless.

Until a few years back it was only available in the US on VHS for something near $80. A few years back the film was remastered and sold on DVD in the UK and Europe. Then about a year ago it finally made it’s way over to North America, first via the grey market, then finally by official means.
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that sounds awesome! not like those bullshit nissan commercials where they barricade the streets and try to make it look real.
 
downloading...

hey any of you dickz know about Group B cars? man those were the SHIT!

http://www.stormloader.com/groupb/
them shitz said:
"Rallying has reached a point such that the speed limitation is the profile of the road. If everything goes right for the drivers, there is no more than two or three seconds of difference on a stage. Which means the judge is not the car, the tires, or the drivers - it is the road. They cannot go any faster!"

- Maurice Guaslard, former head of Michelin's rally program, 1986.
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man, speaking of consuming (see Dawn of the Dead thread) i want one of those new Charger R/Ts. the SRT-8 is a bit over the top but a 340 horse R/T would do me just fine. i saw a $28000 audi station wagon yersterday and i was blown away by the fact that the charger costs the same and has *140* more hp. those Euro cars are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY overpriced or else american cars are shit. probably a combo of both but if american cars are such shit, how can they afford to offer 7 year/70000 mile warranties? japanese cars are still plugging along with absurd 3/36000 token warranties. i dont get it. anyway, 340 hp for under 30 grand is unheard of. the $101,000 benz i drove recently had only 300. i dont know how they get away with it.
 
I've done 125+ in my uncles BMW 525. I didn't go any faster cause he was there with me in the car... I like to test the top speeds of cars. I've done 120+ in 3-4 different cars.
 
dorian gray said:
man, speaking of consuming (see Dawn of the Dead thread) i want one of those new Charger R/Ts. the SRT-8 is a bit over the top but a 340 horse R/T would do me just fine. i saw a $28000 audi station wagon yersterday and i was blown away by the fact that the charger costs the same and has *140* more hp. those Euro cars are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY overpriced or else american cars are shit. probably a combo of both but if american cars are such shit, how can they afford to offer 7 year/70000 mile warranties? japanese cars are still plugging along with absurd 3/36000 token warranties. i dont get it. anyway, 340 hp for under 30 grand is unheard of. the $101,000 benz i drove recently had only 300. i dont know how they get away with it.
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#1. HP is not everything .... power to weight ratio is.

#2. why the fuck people who have cars with high HP never drive them like they are meant to? it irks the fuck out of me when someone in a high perfomance car plods along on the street or the highway .... step on it mothrfucker :D

3. that charger looks good for the price, personally I don't like the heft of that car with that juice under the hood.

4. a Lotus Elise would be sooooo nice if I could fit in it.

BTW, the 7 year/70000 mile from dodge is on the engine only ... meaning ... engine blows, you are safe ... anything realted goes bad ... pay up.
although I just saw some commercial just today on TV, where Dodge is starting some 2 years gas free + 2 years Free scheduled maintenance
 
haha, good post

#1 but im over the power-to-weight ratio thing. thats for race cars. im sick of driving a tin can with 140 hp. a bicycle could crash into me and id probably suffer a major injury. the charger is a HUGE car - somewhere near 4000 pounds. reminds me of the cars i rode in as a child. i like that. until it is gov't mandated that we all drive small cars, it is simply not worth it to drive around in a geo metro or whatever. my life is worth more than the price of gas.

#2 haha, totally agree. corvette drivers are the WORST about this

#4 me too but meh, itd be like driving a go-kart. track use ONLY for something like that.

and, yeah, i know about the warranty, i was just too lazy to distinguish between coverages
 
im sick of driving a tin can with 140 hp. a bicycle could crash into me and id probably suffer a major injury. the charger is a HUGE car - somewhere near 4000 pounds. reminds me of the cars i rode in as a child.
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this is where most people's misconceptions lie.

having been on both sides of the coin (had 4 huuuuuge American land yachts and now the MINI) ... I can honestly tell you I feel safer in the MINI.
It is more manuverable, a smaller car reacts much faster to a potential hazard ... it has airbags literally all over the car ... in a rollover you are protected like a cacoon. even has a 4 Star Crash rating ...

driving big American cars nowadays (and I do on occasion in rentals and my friends cars) ... they feel unpredictable. I really do not like the "floating" feel and how they do not feel like the driver and road are one.

my argument carries over to the European large sedans as well ... although I don't think I would refuse a 7 series BMW for example :loco:
 
dude, i see what youre saying. my two cars are the mx-5 and a camry. i "feel" safer in the mx-5 because i know exactly what the car is going to do as soon as i move, say, a finger. with the camry i can only assume....and hope. however, i would much prefer to be in an accident in the camry.

as for the crash ratings, dont forget those are relative to the class of car. the mini weighs somewhere around 2300 or so right? the same company as corollas, mx-5s, echos, civics, etc. almost everyone of those cars has a FIVE star crash rating. so, even in its own class, the mini isnt *that* impressive. dont get me wrong, id take a mini over my ten year old mx-5 any day, but i wouldn't overestimate it's crashworthiness.

you have a good argument overall though
 
i want a land yacht. itd be funny. like a 70s caddy or something. good in snow, i hear.
 
you's gots some inlines or anything? i was looking at ccm's website recently. id likes to get me some new inlines but theres really no point because i dont have anywhere to play anymore.
 
we have our wonderful culdesac (sp) which is also on a hill. Adds an interesting aspect... sloped roller hockey. yeah, i bought em at the start of winter... cheap season... $180 blades for $80
 
Iconoclastic Tendencies said:
2300lb mini meets oncoming land yacht. by the end, mini looks like one of my beer cans while camping.
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ok ... just to show you something. this is from a 40mph test into a wall by the NHTSA ... it was from 2002, first year for MINI in the US, and a Ford F150.

this was big news back then, in 2004 Ford redesigned the F150 ...

all I am saying is do not judge something by its size :loco:

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links to numerous articles on this here:
http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/CrashTestingMINICooperVsFordF150
 
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