In Flames -Sounds of A Playground Fading (Upcoming 10th album)
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Hey all, I've been lurking here for the last month or two following along with this topic. I finally decided it was time to make an account so I could partake in some of the discussion.
I'm pretty stoked for the new album, every song I've heard so far is a winner (although Deliver Us is weaker than the rest). I love the variation that we've heard so far within these four tracks and I can't wait to hear the rest. Does anyone have a favorite riff from any of the four that have been leaked? I know that I'm partial to the intro twin lead riffs of A New Dawn as well as the verse riff in the title track, both are powerful and infectious at the same time.
Welcome to the forum. I'd have to say A New Dawn's riff, probably, but it's so damn close. I can say that A New Dawn is my favorite out of the 4 so far. But I believe, other than Deliver Us, Enter Tragedy has the best quality for me, in terms of leaked quality.
Kake21
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@Krofius
I disagree completely with you on the guitar sound of their newer stuff.
R2R and STYE had the guitars buried down so deep that you had to concentrate on the song if you want to hear those guitar tracks.
CC and ASOP did a better job, but no where near as clear as post-Clayman. From what I've heard from SOAPF's guitar soudns may be improved more but still, not top quality like it was on Clayman.
@Synchestra
I agree that Deliver Us is weaker, but I still love that song
I like the chugga riffs in the song. The samples were crazy. From what I've heard, the album sounds very diverse which to be honest wasn't what I wanted but they're just samples, they'll probably sound better when at full quality and that I could listen to the full songs
My favourite of all the samples (and leaked) is the riff after the electro stuff on Fear is the Weakness. I dunno, it's weird but it sounds very catchy.
I disagree completely with you on the guitar sound of their newer stuff.
R2R and STYE had the guitars buried down so deep that you had to concentrate on the song if you want to hear those guitar tracks.
CC and ASOP did a better job, but no where near as clear as post-Clayman. From what I've heard from SOAPF's guitar soudns may be improved more but still, not top quality like it was on Clayman.
@Synchestra
I agree that Deliver Us is weaker, but I still love that song
I like the chugga riffs in the song. The samples were crazy. From what I've heard, the album sounds very diverse which to be honest wasn't what I wanted but they're just samples, they'll probably sound better when at full quality and that I could listen to the full songs My favourite of all the samples (and leaked) is the riff after the electro stuff on Fear is the Weakness. I dunno, it's weird but it sounds very catchy.
I actually counted about 15 songs from R2R up to and including ASOP. I also counted about 24 songs from Lunar Strain up to and including Clayman (only full length studio albums). So that's 15 songs on 4 albums, and 24 songs on 5 albums. So I'd have to strongly disagree with you here that they are cutting down their songs. And then you add in SOAPF, which is their longest album to date, and that will have 7 songs over 4 minutes, which I believe is the most they've had on one album.
Synchestra
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Thanks for the warm welcome!
A New Dawn really does come come quickly, I agree that the riff is very Embody the Invisible-like (which is awesome considering Colony is probably my favorite record by In Flames). As an entire work, however, the song sounds like a nice mixture of Clayman and Reroute with a newer styled production.
I've also noticed in general that the Anders' vocal delivery seems more passionate and inspired than it did on ASOP, and the lyrics are more interesting and cryptic than they've been since RtR/STYE. The only problem I have is that I really like the way Anders harsh vocals sound on Colony through STYE, and although there are changes present within those albums the harsh vocals took a turn for the worse on ASOP. I feel like some of that has carried over to SOAPF at parts, manly the verses for Enter Tragedy. In my opinion it would sound so much better if he would just actually scream, it sounds like he's holding back and works against the passion that most of the other vocal lines in these four songs carry. Still I'm sure I will get used to it and I actually enjoy ASOP's vocals more than most people that I've encountered, but I felt it was worth mentioning.
A New Dawn really does come come quickly, I agree that the riff is very Embody the Invisible-like (which is awesome considering Colony is probably my favorite record by In Flames). As an entire work, however, the song sounds like a nice mixture of Clayman and Reroute with a newer styled production.
I've also noticed in general that the Anders' vocal delivery seems more passionate and inspired than it did on ASOP, and the lyrics are more interesting and cryptic than they've been since RtR/STYE. The only problem I have is that I really like the way Anders harsh vocals sound on Colony through STYE, and although there are changes present within those albums the harsh vocals took a turn for the worse on ASOP. I feel like some of that has carried over to SOAPF at parts, manly the verses for Enter Tragedy. In my opinion it would sound so much better if he would just actually scream, it sounds like he's holding back and works against the passion that most of the other vocal lines in these four songs carry. Still I'm sure I will get used to it and I actually enjoy ASOP's vocals more than most people that I've encountered, but I felt it was worth mentioning.
I am definitely looking forward to Fear is the Weakness the most. The rising synths, the drums, and the clean guitar, and the very quiet but still there second guitar under the clean vocals is just awesome. And the line "It is way past time, and we're scattering ashes" is just amazing.
Ok, it was more out of my head number.
Let's take 4 minute as a border.
LS-Clayman (sub.included as it has a number of IF songs, not counting covers and double stuff) there are about 30 songs longer than 4 minutes.
RTR-ASOP there are 14 songs.
Take into account that latter albums have a larger parts of the songs given to choruses, while in earlier works there is a lot more guitar work and passages. Also, early albums all have one or more instrumentals (songs 2 or 3 minutes long).
Now, can you honestly say that shorter, more direct songs with catchy choruses repeated 3 times per song, are not a trend on new albums?
I mean, maybe I'm looking too much into it, but if you take ASOP, there is something like 15 songs and only Alias, Disconnected and TCP (experiment) are longer then 4 minutes.
intro-verse-chorus-verse-short solo-chorus-end
Not saying that you can't write a good under 4 minute song, but usually time is required for something interesting to happen besides chorus. Just look at Deliver us and A New Dawn.
Agree with you on Fear is the Weakness. It sounds very promising.
It is a trend but I don't really see it being that big of one. It seems they have gradually and subtly moved to shorter songs. I will agree that, even though I like ASOP very much, it is more of a generic, one formula album. As you said, it only follows the verse-chorus...chorus path for just about every song. I really only feel that that structure was on ASOP, and not the other post-Clayman albums. I still find it strange that, in my opinion, the 3 best songs from ASOP weren't even on the official album. Oh well, I still like all the songs. I like the songs better than the album as a whole itself because I listen to the IF discography on shuffle all the time, so I'm not hearing all the ASOP songs one after the other. And 14? Did you not count Discover Me Like Emptiness? Lol. So yeah, it happened, but now with SOAPF it looks like they are "reversing" that trend, if you will. And it looks like they are also varying their song and lyric structures a lot more than ASOP as well.
I agree with this... I wish he'd just scream the majority of the lyrics instead of yelling them. I think maybe his throat just can't take it anymore and he has to limit his screaming, which sucks. The yelling style is probably easier for him to reproduce live, just sounds average on album.
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I recently listened to ASOP and damn, now hearing all these samples and leaked songs it seems even worse than before. The vocals make it almost unlistenable for me, it's like Anders is almost going to cry and it's freaking annoying. Add real weak chorus and in result most promising songs are destroyed like in I'm The Highway or D&A (when I first time heard this song I was like "What the hell am I listening to?"). I'm really happy that Anders learned his lesson from that album, couse vocals on SOAPF seem to be passionat and honest and well, great overall and for the love of god HE ISINT CRYING ANYMORE.
better quality preview of the album i'm really looking forward to this album
i'm really looking forward to this album
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Kake21
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Thanks for the find
Are these just the Amazon samples with higher quality? Or is it a snippet of the full album, POSSIBLY LEAKED?!
Are these just the Amazon samples with higher quality? Or is it a snippet of the full album, POSSIBLY LEAKED?!
Thanks for the find
Are these just the Amazon samples with higher quality? Or is it a snippet of the full album, POSSIBLY LEAKED?!
Calm down bro, it's just the amazon samples !!
I'm assuming this is a translation error
Dantess9226
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Haha RE: When I saw In Flames in December 2009, they played Artifacts of the Black Rain, and everyone stood there like zombies! It's true! I know In Flames have 'alienated' the older fans (apparently), so have all of the older fans not bothered going to the concerts too? Because either nobody knew AotBR at all, or the old fans were paralyzed by nostalgia!! I'm a bigger fan of the newer In Flames material (alright then- i'm basically a MASSIVE fan of everything post-Whoracle), but that setlist meant for this years album cycle is complete shit. I was hoping that they'd play tonnes of brand new songs! Give Niclas a fresh workout with new material, and get the lads back to full form! Unfortunately it seems they've stuck with turds from ASOP (although i like Alias!). I'd be happy with a full 'SOAPF' set-list with a few older tracks slipped in for good measure!
And people- lay off Krofius. He's not the only fan-boy here, y'know! We're fans of the band, and will give any music they make a chance! @A88- saying that In Flames filler their music with electro-stuff is ludicris! They have near enough built their entire sound around the atmosphere they create, and the synths/keys add wholely to the mix!
I am the only person here who actually like Deliver Us? Yeah, it feels like a purpose-designed radio single- but i really like it!
And people- lay off Krofius. He's not the only fan-boy here, y'know!
We're fans of the band, and will give any music they make a chance! @A88- saying that In Flames filler their music with electro-stuff is ludicris! They have near enough built their entire sound around the atmosphere they create, and the synths/keys add wholely to the mix!I am the only person here who actually like Deliver Us? Yeah, it feels like a purpose-designed radio single- but i really like it!
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No it isn't. It's a known Swedish metaphor =)I'm assuming this is a translation error
there's one thing that in flames has that all of bands dont:Balls. This is going to be a very diverse record, and i have a feeling that i'm going to enjoy all of it. I read a pretty negative review that was written a few hours ago,
http://www.lordsofmetal.nl/showreview.php?id=19038&lang=en <--- theres the link. and this guy only points out the obvious. I don't understand why so many people go into listening to in flames' newer music think it will be the next jester race/whoracle. OH well. more power to him. music is taste and preference, and opinions vary.
http://www.lordsofmetal.nl/showreview.php?id=19038&lang=en <--- theres the link. and this guy only points out the obvious. I don't understand why so many people go into listening to in flames' newer music think it will be the next jester race/whoracle. OH well. more power to him. music is taste and preference, and opinions vary.
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