Industrial Music

Nuno: the designation "Future Pop" was actually coined by VNV Nation, Covenant and Apoptygma Berzerk in order to distinguish themselves from traditional industrial and goth - and thereby not be stigmatized and shunned by mainstream media. The idea didn't work as all bands of that genre are still categorized under "goth".

Thanks for the info, didnt know that, I saw a few times that desination in this kind of music but didnt know the history behind. Well, to me this is some kind of cyber electro goth if that makes sense!lol The melodies in some of this bands are quite depressing!lol But I dig this kind of music.
 
Nuno: Future Pop is not Cybergoth/-electro. Quite the opposite actually. Usually fans of future pop are 25-40 years old and cybergoth fans are 14-25 on average. Cybergoth is mainly defined by faster and harder tracks and the neon clothing/accessories, while future pop is defined by the sad sounding voice and more poppy songwriting.

Ermz: Jan from Noisuf-X is kinda like the CLA of the industrial scene. He does a lot of mixing/mastering for the harder dance acts. He's much cooler than CLA though as a person :D
 
Sami, are you telling me that jobs in mixing/mastering alone are actually possible in electro music!?!??/?!?! I honestly thought every artist did their own, and that mixing/mastering in a vacuum didn't exist in that scene o_O. That's amazing, honestly it was one of my dreams to work on music like that for a living. To know it's at all possible... !!
 
Ermz: not really. I'm not sure if Jan lives solely off of his mixing/mastering work but he is definitely the guy who does the most production work for other acts in the whole industrial scene. Far behind him in terms of volume of work are Kolja Trelle (Soman), Sebastian Komor (Icon Of Coil/Komor Kommando) and Krischan Wesenberg (Rotersand). For a list of Jan's work go to: http://www.x-fusion.com/xmp/index.php?content=referenzen

Jan is known for getting very loud and punchy harddance mixes and he works/worked with every label out there. That's why literally every harsh-electro band that is about to release an album made in Fruity Loops is contacting him for mixing as soon as they feel "ready". What's amazing is the fact that his studio is HORRIBLY set up in terms of acoustics (check out: http://www.x-fusion.com/xmp/index.php?content=samples), but if it works I'm the first to disregard all the acousticians :)

I dare say his work sounds very very similar from band to band, but so does CLAs, and that's why bands come to him.

A lot of his work is of older date though, so I'm kinda thinking that he's working less than he used to. Also remember: Germany in the 2000s was the mecca for goth/industrial. It's very hard to make money off of harsh-electro anywhere else, especially now, because the only two bands that anyone still gives a shit about are Suicide Commando and Agonoize. There's a German hardstyle influenced duo called X-RX who are popular in the teenie demographic but they don't make money, they're just hip.

I think I'm one of the few who makes a decent income by doing it all myself, but I still wouldn't give up my dayjob ...
 
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Hey Ermz, you did mention DWIFH as at least interesting. I don't know if you consider the mixing any good but for what it's worth, it was done with shit headphones and pc speakers. Just saying.
 
As a sidenote: Dead When I Found Her might go on tour as special guest with us in 2013. I personally am not sure if they are a good fit, but hey it's all politics and money anyway ... even in super-niche genres like this.
 
Deus.exe: glad you liked it. I hated the show. The local stage crew were complete imbeciles. Some of the stagehands were drunk. The stagemanager didn't have any of our stage stuff ready and the monitor guy was a complete fool. Worst sound I've ever had in my in-ears - plus constant feedback from my mic (which I rarely ever have). Oh well, people liked it.

Can you specify why you liked it - as opposed to the usual goth electro that you can't stand?
 
smy1: Most other "electro" goth groups (to my ears at least) sound relatively interchangeable, but yours seems to have a little more personality. I know that thats a bit of a blanket Statement and there are some groups that i actually like, Projekt Pitchfork for example, but stuff like VNV Nation just gets on my tits. Maybe its because i've actually taken Time to listen to your stuff (through this forum) beforehand.
 
Also i think it has a bit to do with a certain Segment of the audience who listen to that kind of music. You know who i'm talking about, the people who listen to Nachtmahr, Feindflug oder Tyske Ludder and wear questionable uniforms.
 
Nice! So far this is one of two tracks posted I actually kind of like. Great mix too.
Yeah, the dude is a monster.
I don't know his work on X-Fusion at all but i really dig some Noisuf-X releases, and I love the fact that there are always a lot of instrumental tracks.

smy1 : thanks a lot for the great infos, I didn't know this dude was that big in that scene !
 
Oh, just remembered this great band too :

Less melodic, but they putted out some amazing releases.
 
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Hate to add to the Skinny Puppy fandom, but how cool are these guys live??

 
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