interesting.........and I live so close to it....

Ministry has a song kind of about this on their new album... coming out on tuesday.

/ plug
 
Believe it or not, the 9/11 conspiracy theory "movement" is very large and growing fast. There are actually many scientists, physicists, and scholars deeply involved at the very core of it, as well.

Wanna hear some crazy shit? You know that "nut" Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney who got into it with the guards at the Capitol? Well, she just so happens to be the #1 9/11 conspiracy theory advocate up on the Hill. The guy who made that "Loose Change" video on the net was the one who kept bugging her with these questions about 9/11. Eventually, he convinced her that there was some merit to what he was saying. If the Republicans lose control of the House during the next elections, McKinney has said that she and several other Democrats will reopen the 9/11 commission and eventually impeach Bush and co. on charges of treason related to 9/11. Some people are saying this is why she gets hassled so much up there. We'll see what happens.....

http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html

scroll down to "Michael Ruppert Introduction" and you'll see McKinney....
 
metalkingdom said:
Believe it or not, the 9/11 conspiracy theory "movement" is very large and growing fast. There are actually many scientists, physicists, and scholars deeply involved at the very core of it, as well.

Wanna hear some crazy shit? You know that "nut" Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney who got into it with the guards at the Capitol? Well, she just so happens to be the #1 9/11 conspiracy theory advocate up on the Hill. The guy who made that "Loose Change" video on the net was the one who kept bugging her with these questions about 9/11. Eventually, he convinced her that there was some merit to what he was saying. If the Republicans lose control of the House during the next elections, McKinney has said that she and several other Democrats will reopen the 9/11 commission and eventually impeach Bush and co. on charges of treason related to 9/11. Some people are saying this is why she gets hassled so much up there. We'll see what happens.....

http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html

scroll down to "Michael Ruppert Introduction" and you'll see McKinney....

Because she couldn't have been hassled because she didn't have her pass and punched an officer? That's the only harrassment she's received that I know of. And why would the democrats want to reopen the 911 commission when the majority of it's members were officials in the clinton administration? The 9/11 Commission Report is often touted as a 'clinton coverup' so to speak.
edit: I would actually like the commission to be reopened and looked at by some non-partisan committee.

In regards to the videos;

Granted there are 1 or 2 things I personally find compelling, but I give these videos very little merit. In my opinion, it is perfectly fine to ask questions, particularly if you sense there is something amiss. What is not okay, however, is NOT asking questions under the guise of actually asking questions. When I watch a video and come away with more questions on how the film was made, by who, why, when, where they got their information, what their sources were, what scientific evidence (verifiable) confirms some of their suspicions etc; I do not think of it as a compelling video in the aggregate. Many of the theories and explanations offered simply left me with more questions; is it possible that cracking concrete sounds like explosive? Is that a person jumping of their own free will? Are those terrorists who were claimed to be 'alive' in fact alive, or are there people with their same name alive and well, and was there confusion in identifying them? (This is actually the case with several of the people he mentioned).

It seems to me that this video glosses over far too many facts, and even more questions to actually be worthwhile. If this video leaves you with questions I encourage you to look on your own, rather than take this video as hard fact incarnate, especially when the motives of the maker can be called into question as well.

My advice if you want it: If you're going to question something, question everything.
 
FretsAflame said:
My advice if you want it: If you're going to question something, question everything.


I agree with you 100% steve.
I love your points, as I felt the same way when I watched it.
I love to "open" my mind and ask questions about everything.
The fact that those men are still alive, or the explosions in the building,
or the gold, can be questioned, no doubt.
But there were several points that made me raise my eye brow in amazement... the "hole" in the Pentagon... the lack of debris...
Those do make me wonder.
I find it interesting... I dont believe everything the goverment is telling me...
especially under the biggest liar in the world's history.... JWB...
 
Dead_Lioness said:
I agree with you 100% steve.
I love your points, as I felt the same way when I watched it.
I love to "open" my mind and ask questions about everything.
The fact that those men are still alive, or the explosions in the building,
or the gold, can be questioned, no doubt.
But there were several points that made me raise my eye brow in amazement... the "hole" in the Pentagon... the lack of debris...
Those do make me wonder.
I find it interesting... I dont believe everything the goverment is telling me...
especially under the biggest liar in the world's history.... JWB...

Thanks Karen ;)

Maybe we can talk about this (in short, don't want to be a drag lmao) at the show or something.

I've also gotta disagree with you on the whole biggest liar in history thing, but disagreements aside I still <3 youuuuu. :D
 
FretsAflame said:
Granted there are 1 or 2 things I personally find compelling, but I give these videos very little merit. In my opinion, it is perfectly fine to ask questions, particularly if you sense there is something amiss. What is not okay, however, is NOT asking questions under the guise of actually asking questions. When I watch a video and come away with more questions on how the film was made, by who, why, when, where they got their information, what their sources were, what scientific evidence (verifiable) confirms some of their suspicions etc; I do not think of it as a compelling video in the aggregate. Many of the theories and explanations offered simply left me with more questions; is it possible that cracking concrete sounds like explosive? Is that a person jumping of their own free will? Are those terrorists who were claimed to be 'alive' in fact alive, or are there people with their same name alive and well, and was there confusion in identifying them? (This is actually the case with several of the people he mentioned).

It seems to me that this video glosses over far too many facts, and even more questions to actually be worthwhile. If this video leaves you with questions I encourage you to look on your own, rather than take this video as hard fact incarnate, especially when the motives of the maker can be called into question as well.

My advice if you want it: If you're going to question something, question everything.
You know dude, i think we have very different political views, but i totally agree with you on this count. It was hard for me to take either video seriously. I may hate bush, hate the right (the political side, not the opposite of wrong), but those videos were poorly done.
 
Also, a lot of "documentaries" like this always have some really smug sounding narrator. Its sort of a "im so cool because i see all this evidence and im right and your wrong, and blah blah blah blah blah".
 
Wolftribe said:
You know dude, i think we have very different political views, but i totally agree with you on this count. It was hard for me to take either video seriously. I may hate bush, hate the right (the political side, not the opposite of wrong), but those videos were poorly done.

Well they're quite polished videos but they fail at providing any real content.

You know I wrote out this whole thing about differing views and stuff but I just deleted it, thanks for the props man, I appreciate it.
 
Wolftribe said:
Also, a lot of "documentaries" like this always have some really smug sounding narrator. Its sort of a "im so cool because i see all this evidence and im right and your wrong, and blah blah blah blah blah".

Hahaha, did you catch the south park about 'smug'? ;) Kinda reminds me of that.
 
watched both, interesting, when i saw the pentagon i thought it was a missle, when i saw 9-11 live i thought it was a demolishion. i'm usually right with my instincts. and once bush invaded iraq and the patriot act and shit, i knew he was behind 9-11 in some way.
and now they want to control the net to keep this information safe. so we don't rebel. well fuck them we'll do what we want.