I've finally done it...

[Loren Littlejohn]

with macs you are STUCK with what they give you and that is it!!!. (can you tell I am a BIG mac hater)

Love Curran

While most current macs I would agree (I dunno what you can do with an imac mac mini or the books) about being able to upgrade. Totally disagree in regards to Powermac machines or current Macpro machines. These are like PC towers, you upgrade them, in fact you (if you wanted to) can stick a dual 2.0ghz G4 in an old powermac G4 if you wanted to (kind of pricy to do that to an old machine though). And Ram is same thing, works like a computer you want more throw more in.

I fail to see how that is being stuck with what they give you.

 

[JeffTD]

While most current macs I would agree (I dunno what you can do with an imac mac mini or the books) about being able to upgrade. Totally disagree in regards to Powermac machines or current Macpro machines. These are like PC towers, you upgrade them, in fact you (if you wanted to) can stick a dual 2.0ghz G4 in an old powermac G4 if you wanted to (kind of pricy to do that to an old machine though). And Ram is same thing, works like a computer you want more throw more in.

I fail to see how that is being stuck with what they give you.

Yeah... you're not stuck with what they give you, at all. I've replaced the CD drive, HDD, and RAM in my MacBook, and could replace the processor if I wanted.

 

[Kazrog]

DP is great and is what I use, but now that you have a Mac I would give Logic a look also. The main thing I like about DP is how configurable and powerful it is. Logic will make much better use of your CPU, though (at least for the time being.)

I will second the fact that Windows Vista is the new Windows Me. And I'm a Windows software developer (ironically, I hate Windows and only have Macs at home.)

 

[Curran]

okay from what you guys are telling me you can upgrade your macs, they still cost about three times more than a PC clone and are still only about half as upgradeable as any PC I have dealt with. well I guess it is more of the apple snob thing that makes me hate mac/PT snobbery that I have had to endure(bitter little PC user) from the so called "PRO's" here in O-hell-O. well if the mac works for you then more power to you still think PC's are a better option for options thought! HAHA
Love Curran
P.S. PC's Rule mac Sucks!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA just goofin'

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

I still have Logic Pro 7.2 for sale

 

[greyskull]

come come now children.
lets not fall into this flame war again.
i know what side im on, but if it works for you then fuck it.

 

[ArtGarceau]

I was a very defensive PC user until my computer crashed in the middle of the highest profile session that I've ever had.

I've now been on Mac for 2 years and not 1 crash or freeze up. I recently bought an Intel Mac and it is perfect on the OS X side.

Different strokes because I know a few PC users that hardly have any issues, but I like that if you have an issues with your Mac you can repair your permissions and it cures 99% of the time. If that doesn't work a 5 minute google search will fix it.

PCs are great, and I'll use one on a personal project, but I record/mix for a good chunk of my salary and I can't put my livelyhood into the hands of Bill Gates.

 

[Kazrog]

okay from what you guys are telling me you can upgrade your macs, they still cost about three times more than a PC clone and are still only about half as upgradeable as any PC I have dealt with.

If you compare same-specs to same-specs, Macs are about the same price as PCs, sometimes cheaper. Apple doesn't make an ultra low-end machine running on budget hardware because they're not interested in that market. If you're doing professional music production, you shouldn't be interested in those kinds of machines, either.

It's nice not having to pay the "virus tax" on the Mac and have the uncertainty of arbitrary driver conflicts and other Windows weirdness. You might be able to save a few bucks by building your own PC from components, but you'll end up wasting more time and money trying to get the thing to work for you. On a Mac, the whole experience has been architected from the ground up for security, stability, and compatibility.

I hate Mac snobs. No point in being a snob about it. I recommend Macs to everyone because they empower people to get their goals accomplished without the distraction of all the problems that exist on the Windows platform.

 

[TheDude]

Between 1994 until today I've been using an Atari1040st, then a PowerMac8100, PowerMacG3, PowerMacG4, AMD 750mhz, AMD 2400+, AMD 3200+, Intel M 1,73 mhz, and an AMDx2 3800+ for music production. Here's my opinion: The only computer that worked flawlessly was the Atari 1040 st.

Haven't worked with Vista or OSX though.

 

[JBroll]

It's nice not having to pay the "virus tax" on the Mac and have the uncertainty of arbitrary driver conflicts and other Windows weirdness. You might be able to save a few bucks by building your own PC from components, but you'll end up wasting more time and money trying to get the thing to work for you. On a Mac, the whole experience has been architected from the ground up for security, stability, and compatibility.

Now if only there were an operating system that were so stable that Mac would build its software on top of it, but yet open-ended enough for any hack to plug a toaster into a telly and get a functioning system... Fuck all if it would be free and so accessible and easy-to-rework that free support over the internet would come bounding through moments after hitting the 'post' button... sniff.

Jeff