jannes style

the_drip said:
yup i'm sure the japanese were thinking about the major scale when they wrote their quartal toned folk music. Funny how your granddad has been teaching music for 40 years and you don't "read" yet. But know all about it. ;)

It's safe to say that the major scale is the basis for all the music you probably enjoy but it is far from teh basis of ALL music.

Gregorian Chant wasn't even based ont eh major scale...everythign was purely modal until J.S bach decided he wanted to well-temper his clavier. pre-bach is almost all modal. THings changed after he came into the fold.

I don't mean to jump down your throat, I just think you should realize that there is alot more to music than just "the major scale" That's all.
im not saying that all music has the major scale, im saying that all scales are based off of the major scale, being 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. the japanese scale you are talking aboutp; it took the major scale, and made different notes minor, diminished, or augmented thus changing the scale, and renameing it, this is how EVERY scale was made.
 
bobvex said:
im not saying that all music has the major scale, im saying that all scales are based off of the major scale, being 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. the japanese scale you are talking aboutp; it took the major scale, and made different notes minor, diminished, or augmented thus changing the scale, and renameing it, this is how EVERY scale was made.

correct me if im wrong but in some places in the middle east arent there about 100 tones or so in their music? now do you mean to tell me you are enough of a concieted westerner that you believe it HAD to come from your musical scale. When in fact it seems more like you are basing your reasoning on the fact that they do indeed include the same tones. I do not believe that your grandfather is enough of an authority, teaching music, to be able to justifiably argue that all music is based off of western music's tones.
 
yeah, soem eastern music has quarter steps..as opposed to our scales which are made up of WHole steps and HAlf steps. mongolia, India, Japan, CHina.

Things are completely different over there. THey were isolated for the most part from western civilization adn all that Christianity bullshit that screwed everything up over here. THe chinese calendar is like ahead of us by 2000 years or something.

I have a cd with some japanese folk music on it somewhere...I"Ll try to find the title so you guys can download it.
 
Japanese folk music sounds very pentatonic. but yeah they have these weird bends that i don't understand. It,s an entirely different musical system, you can't really apply our "conventional" theory to it.

Just listen to the sound of a koto or shamisen... you know those notes that bend just slightly upwards by about 1/4 step..... i dont know if the instrument's strings do that, or if the player does it on purpose.
 
Janne, do you use a ribbon (i think thats what they're called) on ur keyboard? ...that thing thats like a pitchbender, but not, as in its a long thing that u slide ur finger across. and not the modulation thing either ... this is sum'm different. anyway, do you use *it*?
 
> im not saying that all music has the major scale, im saying that all scales are
> based off of the major scale, being 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.


dude, i'll have to try and remember that.... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 right? :grin:
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> Janne, do you use a ribbon (i think thats what they're called) on ur keyboard? ...that thing
> thats like a pitchbender, but not, as in its a long thing that u slide ur finger across.


I saw the keyboardist from Sonata Arctica with one of those on his strap-on portable keyobard.

in Jani Limatainen(?) 's guitar instructional, there's a live jamming part where he puts his keyboard near Jani's ass and uses it to make a low note bend that sounds like a fart (: .... funny (: (: (:
 
delt said:
dude, i'll have to try and remember that.... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 right? :grin:
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ahhh you know what i mean.
 
Doesnt tradaitonal asian music use a totally different tonal system from the western one ? so of course instruments like that when used tradationally will sound "wrong" to our ears. and yes I agree with bob all music IS based off the major scale.
 
he want to know if JanneWarman on the forum is the real Janne Warman. And the answer is yes.

Ho and for the guy that was on the Montreal show:

-They did a solo battle, it's the part where Alexi gave beer to Janne when this one was playing.

-Playing like 3 or 4 note on the OrcHits give more impact to sound.

-Plying with the keyboard titled is more comfortable.

-You can split the Lead sound with a String one at the D1 (the first D on the keyboard) and hold the note with tape. But you have to remember to put the "Pitch Bend" at zero on the String sound. If not, even the String sound will be bend with the Lead one.

-The lead, I'm prety sure that it's a Square like with some Cutoff and a litle bit of flanger/Reverb, it's what I use on the Bodom song. (maybe the mod is program to had some wah effect ?)