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I think so. The Psalm of Lydia sounds like a XXX to me...especially the part where its I think muted?
Jeff Loomis and Engl Amps!!!
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Dead Winter
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Every live show that I've seen where they used a Krank, the sound was crap. Way too much mid-range and a non-existent bottom end.
Glad to hear it. The Powerball and the Invader are my two favourite Engls. Chris used the Powerball for many years, he may be using the Invader now, I cant recall.
Dead Winter
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Is the Invader the new Engl uber amp, like $3000? If so, that's my dream amp. That amp has the best tone I've ever heard.
reese_apoc
May the HORNS be with you
well, his endoresment with krank wasn't around til after the album i believe
Dead Winter
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Also, Krank doesn't REALLY "endorse" artists...they don't give them tons of free shit. The artists usually buy the amps from them and Krank gives them support.
Bogner make wonderful amps as well. Hughes and Kettner is another high-end tube amp with fantastic tone.
The Invader and the Special Edition are the two biggest Engl amps at the moment.
The Invader and the Special Edition are the two biggest Engl amps at the moment.
reese_apoc
May the HORNS be with you
you can't always blame bad sound on the bands gear. the type of venue and the sound guy are much bigger factors.
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you can't blame all of it, but the gear is always a huge factor. I know personally what the dual rec is like having owned one.
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http://www.line6.com/spidervalve/
Can you believe this? I wanna at least try one. It's still a modeling amp though...mehh
Can you believe this? I wanna at least try one. It's still a modeling amp though...mehh
Dead Winter
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Thanks Bluesky! Check out the Bogner Uberschall if you're looking into them. It's about as expensive as an Invader, but has more bottom end. Come to think of it, if you mixed a 6505 and an Invader, you'd get something similar to a Bogner Uberschall. I was speaking with Isaac from God Dethroned and I checked out his Uberschall and it's fucking fantastic. If I had a choice between the Invader and a Bogner, I just may go with a Bogner.
I tried the Peavey XXX and to be honest, it's just not LOUD enough! It has decent tone, but it just doesn't have any balls, IMO.
I tried the Peavey XXX and to be honest, it's just not LOUD enough! It has decent tone, but it just doesn't have any balls, IMO.
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finally so thats whats been wrong with their sound...now i can go see them live again
Dead Winter
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No the clean channel is quite dirty, you can tweak all you want, it won't clean it up. But the + is even cleaner than the regular 6505 on that channel, so you can imagine how bad the clean was on the original. I got the + because although it may have a little less face-melting power, it's more versatile. The 6505 is basically good for distortion and that's it. I need a little more versatility.
I've got mine coupled with a Boss GT-8 multifx and it sounds fantastic. I use no external distortion whatsoever with it, just EQ, Compressor, and a little reverb since there isn't any reverb on the amp. With an EQ, it sounds much more punchy and clean, without sacrificing any of the tonal characteristics. For pristine cleans, I use the 4 cable method with my GT8 and get a direct signal from a clean setting in the multifx to the cab, bypassing the amp altogether. It's like angels weeping. When I switch from distortion to cleans, it pretty much switches the amp on and off...cleans come from the multifx and then I switch back to a distortion channel and it switches the signal back through the amp to get the amp's distortion coupled with the effect settings from the multifx.
If you want just a teeny tiny boost in distortion and don't have a multifx, get an Ibanez Tube Screamer, a Boss Digital Delay, and an EQ pedal and you're set for life. That's all you need for great tone with that amp. I use the same setup with my Boss GT-8, only all those pedals are already built into the unit.
Happy wailing!!!!!!
I've got mine coupled with a Boss GT-8 multifx and it sounds fantastic. I use no external distortion whatsoever with it, just EQ, Compressor, and a little reverb since there isn't any reverb on the amp. With an EQ, it sounds much more punchy and clean, without sacrificing any of the tonal characteristics. For pristine cleans, I use the 4 cable method with my GT8 and get a direct signal from a clean setting in the multifx to the cab, bypassing the amp altogether. It's like angels weeping. When I switch from distortion to cleans, it pretty much switches the amp on and off...cleans come from the multifx and then I switch back to a distortion channel and it switches the signal back through the amp to get the amp's distortion coupled with the effect settings from the multifx.
If you want just a teeny tiny boost in distortion and don't have a multifx, get an Ibanez Tube Screamer, a Boss Digital Delay, and an EQ pedal and you're set for life. That's all you need for great tone with that amp. I use the same setup with my Boss GT-8, only all those pedals are already built into the unit.
Happy wailing!!!!!!
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Dude, if you have a GT8 you're going to cum when you mix the two and tweak the settings. Are you familiar with the 4 cable method? It's a way of interlacing the two paths without putting one in front of the other. I'm telling you, put the EQ on the power metal preset, adjust the compression, and add a little reverb and you're head will explode. You can tweak the EQ to a setting you like personally, of course, but the power metal setting was perfect for me.
To really harness the sound of both, you need to use the 4 cable method.
To really harness the sound of both, you need to use the 4 cable method.
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I played the Bogner Ubserschall about a year ago at some store, holy shit what an amp.
Yes, but their producer, Andy Sneap, had a Krank(a Rev if I remember correctly), so the guys used that on TGE, along with a Dual Rectifier.
Enemies of Reality was a Triple Recto and Dead Heart.. was Andy Sneap's Dual Recto.
And as an owner of a three channel Triple Recto, I must say that loose and flubby are the last words to describe this amp. This amp has insane amounts of low end, but it keeps it very tight. Even with low tunings.(I use 7-stringed guitars)
Yes, it can be flubby if you use tube rectifiers and the spongy mode, but for tight metal tones you need to set the amp on silicon diode rectifiers and the bold mode. Using the modern mode on the red or the orange channel makes a big difference too.
They can sound like crap if you don't know how to set one up. The controls are very sensitive, so you can't really tweak them like a Marshall or a 6505 etc. If you tried one in a shop etc. with bad settings, yeah it propably sounded like crap. Like I said, set it to silicon diodes and the bold mode, don't go crazy with the EQ and vóila, a tight yet massive metal tone.
I own a Peavey 6505 too, and I love them both, but the Triple is my favourite. Listen to the remixed version of Enemies.., that's how a well set up Triple sounds like in a room. The Triple has a great clean channel too, very Fender'ish.
I love ENGL's too, and I am looking forward in hearing Jeff with one. ENGL's are pretty "cheap" here in Europe, a Triple is almost 1000€'s more than a Powerball, but I prefer the Recto tone.
This was posted at ENGL's homepage:
Jeff Loomis joins the ENGL family
A quote from Jeff:
"One word: Astounding! Undeniabley the best amp i have ever heard. I've been searching my entire musical career for the most shimmering clean to the most brutal heavey tones in one amp, and that dream has finally come true. Thank you Engl for making it a reality ..."
Damn, still no word on the model he is using.
