Jeff Loomis and Engl Amps!!!

[ms. anthrope]

This was posted at ENGL's homepage:

Jeff Loomis joins the ENGL family

A quote from Jeff:

"One word: Astounding! Undeniabley the best amp i have ever heard. I've been searching my entire musical career for the most shimmering clean to the most brutal heavey tones in one amp, and that dream has finally come true. Thank you Engl for making it a reality ..."

Damn, still no word on the model he is using.

he will let me know when he decides, and then i'll post it.

 

[BlueSky]

Yes, but their producer, Andy Sneap, had a Krank(a Rev if I remember correctly), so the guys used that on TGE, along with a Dual Rectifier.

Enemies of Reality was a Triple Recto and Dead Heart.. was Andy Sneap's Dual Recto.

And as an owner of a three channel Triple Recto, I must say that loose and flubby are the last words to describe this amp. This amp has insane amounts of low end, but it keeps it very tight. Even with low tunings.(I use 7-stringed guitars)

Yes, it can be flubby if you use tube rectifiers and the spongy mode, but for tight metal tones you need to set the amp on silicon diode rectifiers and the bold mode. Using the modern mode on the red or the orange channel makes a big difference too.

They can sound like crap if you don't know how to set one up. The controls are very sensitive, so you can't really tweak them like a Marshall or a 6505 etc. If you tried one in a shop etc. with bad settings, yeah it propably sounded like crap. Like I said, set it to silicon diodes and the bold mode, don't go crazy with the EQ and vóila, a tight yet massive metal tone.

I own a Peavey 6505 too, and I love them both, but the Triple is my favourite. Listen to the remixed version of Enemies.., that's how a well set up Triple sounds like in a room. The Triple has a great clean channel too, very Fender'ish.

I love ENGL's too, and I am looking forward in hearing Jeff with one. ENGL's are pretty "cheap" here in Europe, a Triple is almost 1000€'s more than a Powerball, but I prefer the Recto tone.

This was posted at ENGL's homepage:

Jeff Loomis joins the ENGL family

A quote from Jeff:

"One word: Astounding! Undeniabley the best amp i have ever heard. I've been searching my entire musical career for the most shimmering clean to the most brutal heavey tones in one amp, and that dream has finally come true. Thank you Engl for making it a reality ..."

Damn, still no word on the model he is using.

I've tried all the settings trust me, and had it exactly how you have it now for the longest. Low end is slop. Modern=more balls/ no definition, but vintage actually gets you a lot more definition.

 

[TomiR]

I've tried all the settings trust me, and had it exactly how you have it now for the longest. Low end is slop. Modern=more balls/ no definition, but vintage actually gets you a lot more definition.

My Triple is tighter than my 6505, but it just might be, that we have a different view on the concept: tight low end

I do use a Ibanez TS9 with all my amps to tighten them out, so that might be why I have never had any problems with the low end.

 

[TomiR]

he will let me know when he decides, and then i'll post it.

Good to hear, cheers

 

[Fredlund[DK]]

I have the Engl Powerball, and that blasts the hell out of the Engl Firball any day.
Best amp ever!
I bought it 2nd hand from a dude for 1400$. And that is cheap, but gear is generally expencive in Denmark.

 

[Dead_Lioness]

Go Jeff One of the best guitarists out there.

 

[wickedsensation]

Hahahaha, this thread is old.

Also: I have deduced that Jeff was using the ENGL SE 6L6 at that German music clinic.

Discuss.

 

[slashvanyoung]

Doesn't surprise me that he took the one with the 6L6s.

The Engl SE is rather a spaceship than "just" an amp. You have to study rocket science to get a slight grip on what that thing is able to pull off. Astonishing but way to oversized for my personal use. Would love to have one for recording matters though.

Conclusion: shut down NASA and hire the Engl people --> we'll be on Mars ASAP with less casualties.

 

[Brooks]

I've got an SE, and it rocks my world, especially filled with KT77's.

It's true though, it is a supercomputer in an amp. While it has an all-tube signal path, it has so many MIDI controlled tone shaping abilities, it can be overwhelming, and is honestly a bit frightening to think of it breaking down--which mine has. But the controls are so intuitive, it's a piece o'cake to figure out.

The biggest problem is that since ENGL isn't very well known in the States, there aren't many 'technicians' that know how to work on the thing. When mine broke down, I had to send it to Florida to actually get it fixed. You can imagine that taking the thing on tour can be a real risk. Fortunately, I'm not in a band right now! Hooray!




..........

 

[wickedsensation]

Dude, putting KT77's in yer ENGL SE is like castrating it.

 

[Brooks]

Dude, putting KT77's in yer ENGL SE is like castrating it.

I would respectively disagree!

Here's a thread on Harmony Central I wrote soon after going from 6l6's to the KT77's. Chkit.

 

[wickedsensation]

Hahaha, I don't need to check it.

KT77's are ass, dude. I disagree with you disagreeing that KT77's don't sound bad. Why not just mod to KT88's/6550's?

Going KT77's is like a downgrade, dude. Why? You have a sick amp, and yer gonna use some lame tubes? Get some NOS Mullards, and you'll thank me later. I can't wait until JJ stops making them. They have no cut, they are super scooped, and compressed to only cathode bias elitists know when! Are you seriously telling me that KT77's rule harder than a set of KT88's or some nice NOS power tubes?

If that gets yer cock hard, more power to you. It's like you getting hard on tranny porn. I mean, I'm not gay or anything, but if that's what it takes for you to get it up, then HODE IT UP!

:love:

 

[Brooks]

You jerk. Maybe you're right. I'm putting it off. It's Mullard time.

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

If you have a nice tube/amp shop relatively close, stop on by and try out a few types. Vintage Sylvanias and Mullards have amazing tone from my experience.

 

[wickedsensation]

You jerk. Maybe you're right. I'm putting it off. It's Mullard time.

Dude, I'm fucking serious. When you fuck up your OT from using a tube that is just a one-shot, you'll thank me.

I'd suggest getting a matched quad of Mullards from the New Sensor corp., but first ask ENGL about the bias range, because I don't think they have internal/external bias points on their amps.

As for the money: If you have money, go with some NOS mullards, Tesla's (not JJ's), Sevtlana's, or RCA or GE 6ca7's.

When you realize how much more toneful and open these power tubes are, you'll thank me. The KT77's are some of the worst tubes I have ever heard in an amplifier. They sound like someone is putting a blanket over the output section of your amplifier.

And En Vind Av Sorg: You can't just try out a few tube types in the power section of an amplifier because you have to rebias every time. You can, however, swap out tubes in the preamp section as you please.

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Dude, I'm fucking serious. When you fuck up your OT from using a tube that is just a one-shot, you'll thank me.

I'd suggest getting a matched quad of Mullards from the New Sensor corp., but first ask ENGL about the bias range, because I don't think they have internal/external bias points on their amps.

As for the money: If you have money, go with some NOS mullards, Tesla's (not JJ's), Sevtlana's, or RCA or GE 6ca7's.

When you realize how much more toneful and open these power tubes are, you'll thank me. The KT77's are some of the worst tubes I have ever heard in an amplifier. They sound like someone is putting a blanket over the output section of your amplifier.

And En Vind Av Sorg: You can't just try out a few tube types in the power section of an amplifier because you have to rebias every time. You can, however, swap out tubes in the preamp section as you please.

I didn't mean swap out the tubes in and out, I meant test out the tubes already in different amplifiers. Of course this isnt the same as hearing the different tube sounds through your own amp, but it gives you some indication as the tonal differences of the tubes.

 

[Brooks]

And En Vind Av Sorg: You can't just try out a few tube types in the power section of an amplifier because you have to rebias every time. You can, however, swap out tubes in the preamp section as you please.

If you don't know the SE, it has internal bias trim pots wired to green, red, and yellow LED lights for fine tuning, which allows you to rebias on the fly. Pretty genius move on their part. It takes less than a minute to rebias your amp to any set of tubes you could ever want.

Thanks to ENGL--no need to fuck up your Operating Thetan!

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Wow, I did not know that, very cool.

 

[Brooks]

ws, what do you think about New Sensor Corps Mullard reissue?

 

[wickedsensation]

The New Mullards are choice. I have some in my VHT.