John Howard vs Mark Latham

Who do you want as Prime Minister?


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Shannow said:
Koichi,
if the ducks that you shoot are the size of a deer, thus requiring buckshot, then I'd suggest that you go for the flying pigs. (with a correspondingly smaller shot size)

I was saying in general but I worded it wrong. Shooting animals for meat is just extra work you put on yourself. A waste of beer drinking time, when you could be bbqing shop bought meat.
 
I buy only free range eggs and if i could afford it I would only buy free range grain fed chooks all the time.
My ultimate home is one built out of mud brick or hay bails and recycled materials only....energy officiant....septic tank the works and to be as totally sufficant as I possibly can...raising my own chickens ducks,cows,sheep. Huge vege and fruit plot the whole damn "hippy" thing and I do aim to get there one day. So in order to do all that I will need to be able to kill an animal myself...but I ain't going shooting something without just cause. I don't call the way ducks are hunted as being a justified means.
 
the country needs a change as i said - I will be shocked if John Howard gets another term.
 
I dont agree with what MMM is going on about but apart from being protected, hunting ducks is no different to fishing.
 
you Hippie Rob.

Although it was the greens pushing that got fishing lincense introduced, which was probably the best thing they have done. Got rid of a lot of dickheads.
 
I think a lot of the times people vote for the party, not for the actual policies.

Overall Labour are pathetic. Last time they were in (Keating) the country was fucked and Hawke was just as fucking bad. But as I said I will be voting for Labour this election as we have to get Howard out.

Where I live we rely heavily on the sugar industry and in the last 10 years the sugar industry has gone to shit meaning jobs are lost, businesses are closing and people are leaving the area and our local labour member and the premier did not show any interest in it. The only people who did were the Nationals. Apart from Cairns, Port Douglas etc who rely on tourism and it is booming up there, we rely on sugar and its dying and if something doesn't happen soon a lot of towns in North Queensland are going to be ghost towns.

Back to John Howard vs Latham. If it were Simon Crean Vs John Howard I would be voting for Howard.

Centrelink and the health care system need major changes. For middle class young people it is IMPOSSIBLE to get any assistance from Centrelink.

The education system is up to shit. Public schools and their teachers are a joke. When I have kids, if I can afford it, I will be sending them to private school but I do not agree with Private Schools getting government assistance!! They already make thousands out of enrolments.

I am embarrased to call myself Australian lately.
 
Just a final word on the whole duck hunting thing. First of all, it's hardly "hunting". Standing in a pond blazing away at a duck with a shotgun is like firing on infantry with artillery. Secondly, as Shannow has so helpfully pointed out, supermarkets are overflowing with produce and now that Howard's opened the door for who knows how many US imports into the country, they'll be overflowing even more. It simply doesn't make sense to hunt your own food when so much of it is rotting away in garbage bins. There might be the thrill of the hunt, sure, but there can't be much of a hunt involved in duck shooting. Maybe tracking a wild pig through the jungle in NT with a rifle, but not standing in a lake shooting at a bird with a shotgun. And I can completely understand and agree with shooting rabbits, foxes, feral cats, wild pigs, water buffalo, mynahs, starlings and anything that may be at plague proportions (like the ibis in Sydney at the moment) to help bring them under control, however, it should be a regulated operation performed by professionals, not any old Johnny who can point a gun. If you want to shoot, shoot clay pigeons. They move faster than ducks, they take more skill to hit and you won't be actually killing anything.