Laney Ironheart IRT120h through S1412B, 1960B and EVH412

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No post EQ on the guitars in either clip.

Order of cabs is the same both times -

1. Blackstar Series One S1412B (V30s)
2. Marshall 1960B (G12T-75)
3. EVH 412 (G12-EVH)

Amp settings -

Lead channel (no boost)
Gain 7
Bass -2
Mids +1
Treble +1
Treble pot pulled out (shift EQ)
Dynamics 13:00
Tone +3
Lead volume 2
Watts Max



Guitar is a stock Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro (Burstbucker 3 bridge)

Mic is SM57 - placement was edge of dustcap on bottom left speaker on all cabs

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I do this for fun, I'm not a pro so these recordings are to the best of my ability at this time, and hopefully better than the Blackstar clips I did recently. :)


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My Review:

This is a very under-rated amp in my opinion. It is super tight and does not need a boost. The clean is very clean to loud volumes, and the two drive channels have more than enough gain on tap for chunky riffs. It doesn't have the crazy gain of some other industry standards, but by the time you get the gain to 7-8 on either channel with a humbucker it is enough for most high gain tones. The amp is very competitively priced in the UK (£657 new, cheap Ebay prices currently).

Some things learned from my experience with it (all IMO, YMMV)

- The character of the amp is dark, tight, with plenty of punchy bass. I have read some reports that it is a bright amp, it is noticeably darker than my Blackstar S104EL34. I can only guess that the IRT stock cab speakers are bright, I have no experience with them.
- Channel volumes are very smooth so it is easy to use in a home environment. Every other high power valve amp I've used has had a hair trigger MV, this one doesnt! This is a 120 watt valve head which can be run at home volumes, even with the watts control on full.
- EQ is active, and I've found that boosting/cutting drastically will have a noticeable effect on total volume. I don't find this hard to live with, just something to consider.
- Tone control needs to be run higher than you'd expect. I find the amp too dark on 0, it really clears up when you get to +2/+3. It is basically a presence control but things don't get 'fizzy' until around +4.
- Dynamics is basically a resonance control. There is a lot more bass from this head compared to my Blackstar S104EL34
- There is a shift EQ. Pull out the bass knob = deeper bass (I find it makes things too boomy). Pull out the middle knob = clears the midrange (I find it makes things lose too much punch). Pull out the treble knob = shifts treble down towards high mids, making the amp honk a bit more. I quite like this one and find it the only useable shift EQ knob.
- Loads of bass on the lead channel. The voicing is fairly dark on this channel and it has more mids and less treble than the rhythm channel. It is a more low mid focussed sound as opposed to the high mid bite of the EL34 Blackstar head.
- Rhythm channel is more 'classic' sounding, has less bass, more treble and less gain. I find the rhythm channel takes a boost better than the lead channel, but you don't really need to tighten either up anyway.
- Pre-boost seems like a linear boost and not a TS type boost. I don't like it on the gain channels with high gain but it works well as a clean volume boost on the clean channel should you need it. In fact the best use I have for it is to set it so when used my strat is about the same volume as my Les Paul...
- Onboard reverb is OK, not as nice as other onboard reverbs (HT series Blackstars have a nicer reverb) but it does the trick for the home.
- The playing response is good for its price bracket. It is more alive than the HT series Blackstars, but doesn't quite feel like my Series One, which feels really alive when I play it loud.

Foot switch - So you've probably read it has 2 switches for 3 channels. This is correct. It is easy to operate though. Button B when off means the rhythm channel, and when on (green LED lit) it is in clean mode. Button A means lead mode (red LED lit). Lead channel takes precedence, so no matter your setting for button B, if button A is on the lead channel will sound. You have to switch off the lead channel to access clean/rhythm. This means you can switch clean on/off while the lead channel is in use so that the next time you switch off the lead channel your selection will be there... a bit long winded but it works.

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Hope some will find this useful.
 
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Thanks for listening guys.

I'm still really enjoying using the Ironheart head and I'm using it through a Laney TT412 cab with my band.

The cab has two V30s and two Seventy 80s, and I'll probably switch the seventy/80s for either t75s or v30s if I can find a pair cheap at some point. I bought it because it was very cheap and I wanted a cab to leave at rehearsal, since I really enjoy using my other cabs at my home studio.

Here is a picture of the rear of the cab, no idea if this genuinely was an Opeth cab, but that is what has previously been stencilled on. It actually sounds ok and to my knowledge is all ply. I've not had a chance to record the cab, I don't have the space for it at home so it is left at rehearsal.

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I preferred the V30's soloed, but the 75's were much better in the mix... BUT I am listening through my pc speakers, so quality sucks.
I was expecting something better from the EVH's.
 
Thanks for listening guys.

I preferred the V30's soloed, but the 75's were much better in the mix... BUT I am listening through my pc speakers, so quality sucks.
I was expecting something better from the EVH's.

The EVH cab came out badly on this test. Personally I think it is my fault, I think I did not mic it very well. I will happily admit I am still inexperienced with micing cabs and I am learning a lot still.

Here is another clip of the Ironheart with the EVH cab (left speaker) and S1 cab (right speaker).



Humbucker guitar is a Les Paul with Burst Bucker 3, single coil guitar (solo + second riff) is a Tele with Area T. I didn't engineer this one (our other guitarist did) and I think the EVH cab comes off much better here. The EVH cab has broken in more since the OP test, and it sounds better now. I still prefer the Blackstar cab, but I am an OS + V30 cab fan so that is not surprising.
 
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The Laney Ironheart is a bad ass amp. Period.

Yeah I really like it. In the UK it is priced very competitively, if you buy new it costs around £200 less than a 6505 and arguably is more versatile.

I still think most guys on this forum would be more happy with the 6505 first but the Ironheart makes a good alternative choice if you want something tight but less saturated. I previously had a Blackstar HT100 which new is £50 cheaper than the Laney in the UK, though did not have both at the same time. However from gut feeling and from my memory of the Blackstar I'd be picking the Laney Ironheart personally in that price bracket for metal, unless you wanted a more versatile clean. The Laney definitely has punchier bass and is also tighter.

Keith Merrow recently made a cool clip of the amp here, you can hear the string separation quite well and naturally his clip is much better than mine.



Also Fred Brum made a cool video with one too.



I'm guessing the Ironheart 120h will get a lot of use in the UK/EU where it is pretty hard to beat for the new price. Used prices are sick too at the moment. I paid under £400 for mine, and that is after factoring diesel money to drive to collect it.
 
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Really like that EVH clip (would be nice to hear it with some drums & bass)
Need to get me a cab with greenbacks!

The EVH cab is really nice, I can definitely recommend it if you find one at a good price and you want greenbacks. The handles are metal and overall construction is noticeably nicer than a standard 1960 Marshall cab. The castors on my EVH are pop in, which saves a few minutes if like me you need to remove castors when trying to fit gear in tiny hatchback cars.

Thanks for checking out the clips. We're hoping to go with real drums if budget allows and we're still auditioning singers so it might be a while until the track is finished, but I'll post it up when it is ready for critique!
 
All these clips sounds great !
Never heard about this amp before, but now I'm kind of interested.
I see there's a 60w version too, anyone had the chance to try it and compare it to the 120w ?
Is the lack of a master volume knob disturbing ?
 
All these clips sounds great !
Never heard about this amp before, but now I'm kind of interested.
I see there's a 60w version too, anyone had the chance to try it and compare it to the 120w ?
Is the lack of a master volume knob disturbing ?

I've got a 60, specifically picked it up so I could drive it harder at a lower stage volume, as that's my preference. Don't think I've ever heard myself so clearly onstage as I have since I've had the Ironheart.
 
Nice !
Thanks for your feedback.
I'm more interested in the 60w version for the same reasons.
Do you had the chance to compare it to the 120w ?
Do you recognize the tone / character of your amp on all the 120w clips posted ?