Live damage DVD
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Villain
Doctor BenQuillity
Dolby Digital 5.1, but no DTS. On my copy that is, I don't know if there are different versions around.
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solefald
Vheissu
if you just wnat the audiopart buy the exposures double cd.the second cd is the audiopart of the dvd
Villain
Doctor BenQuillity
Greetings from Bulgaria
I would like to use the post about the DVD,to ask if you were noticed that the sound and the picture of the concert are slightly unequivalent.I think that the sound goes a little bit before the picture.May be this is a problem of my copy,which is although original product.Please tell me your opinion.
Cheers,
Nasko
I would like to use the post about the DVD,to ask if you were noticed that the sound and the picture of the concert are slightly unequivalent.I think that the sound goes a little bit before the picture.May be this is a problem of my copy,which is although original product.Please tell me your opinion.
Cheers,
Nasko
Villain
Doctor BenQuillity
Nastko said:Greetings from Bulgaria
I would like to use the post about the DVD,to ask if you were noticed that the sound and the picture of the concert are slightly unequivalent.I think that the sound goes a little bit before the picture.May be this is a problem of my copy,which is although original product.Please tell me your opinion.
Cheers,
Nasko
Yep, this has been observed before; there seems to be some kind of coding issue on the DVD that causes the audio and video appear slightly out of synch on some setups, although it has been reported that the problem doesn't occur on some other setups. I believe no-one is 100% certain of the reason for this, but there have been some speculations. I don't have enough technical knowledge to really say anything about this issue, but my simple guess is that while the DVD is coded as NTSC, the video-part is played on the frame-rate of PAL-systems. I could be way off here, though.
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Erik
New Metal Member
No. If this was the case, it would be completely unwatchable after about 1 second in. NTSC video refresh rate is 60 Hz, PAL is 50 Hz. You do the math.
Villain
Doctor BenQuillity
Erik said:
Uh, yes, but as far as I know, some PAL/NTSC-systems play the other type of video in such a way that they "jump" (sorry for the lack of correct technical terminology) every few seconds and thus keep the video watchable, supposedly causing some visible errors on the screen in the process - and there seem to be some minor video errors every few seconds on the Live Damage DVD when played on some systems.
Then again, I could be lightyears afar from the truth with this.
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Erik
New Metal Member
That's possible I guess, but to me it just seems like a constant lack of sync by a little bit. I'm not really an expert either, huh.
Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
Erik said:
The problem would be that different players have different methods to convert between NTSC and PAL, so if you take that into account along with processing power ( probably a bigger factor on certain pcs for example ) the difference is noticeable but not huge so it could still be the reason.
Outside of this I only observed this errors on digital video and is usually because the persons uses variable bitrate mp3 based audio and the conversion is not accurate introducing audion synch problems that you usually have to correct manually ( as painfull as it is ).
So unless the dvd for some reason experienced a similar error on the production process ( unlikely but not impossible ) i dont see how this could happen on a DVD ( which to my knowledge does not uses variable bitrate mp3 audio ).
anyway I don't have to convert to NTSC since I am in Europe...it's a slight problem but in fact if you really want to enjoy the live performance this problem is visible...unfortunately...and I think it must be problem during the production,because I've downloaded the show from internet too and it seems to be the same...
Magrathean
worldbuilder
I'm completely ignorant when it comes to technical stuff on this subject, but i also think it's just bad playback (or lack of synchronizing, as Erik said). If you watch the videos, there's also more or less bad sync at some parts of "Therein", in the part of "Lost to apathy" where Mikael goes "It matters not.. not..." and the whole thing gets calmer, and at the end of "Hedon".
Dark_Silence
Member
d you mean that sometimes the sound suddenly gets louder during a song (it does not sound the same intensity every time, and sometimes it does not really sound like 5.1)? because that's what i noticed on mine.
Magrathean
worldbuilder
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