Mac or PC
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mick thompson
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IMHO osx is the better choice, okay there are less plugins and crap available for it but what you get in return due to stability is really something else. buy a macbook or any apple computer and the operating system is built around the specs of that computer and because of that reason its a stable environment. in the land of windows its made to work generically on almost any piece of hardware and due to imperfections of quality control in some manufactures of computer components sooner or later your going to find windows less stable then mac osx.
ze kink
THE BLACK WIZARDS
I switched to Mac about a year ago and couldn't be happier with the choice I made. I don't think I'll ever switch back to using PC's for my main recording computer. Especially if I'm going to continue using just a laptop for everything (I'm using a Macbook Pro). Besides, I'm going to switch to Logic very soon, so changing back to Windows would also mean I'd have to change my DAW.
If I played games or stuff like that though, I'm pretty sure I'd probably still be using PC's I built myself, probably with dual boot Windows and Linux as I did with my last PC laptop (I did, however, have issues with both Linux and Windows on it).
If I played games or stuff like that though, I'm pretty sure I'd probably still be using PC's I built myself, probably with dual boot Windows and Linux as I did with my last PC laptop (I did, however, have issues with both Linux and Windows on it).
SocialNumb
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Joematthews
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Having said all this about reliablilty n shit, my pc is still running fast and EXTREMELY stable. It hasn't crashed once in wellll over a year. Pain in the ass to get working but once it's working its solid as hell. What I'm saying is that not all pc's are unreliable, it can work out superbly.
Joe
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darthjujuu
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+1000. dropping the cash on macs is just paying your way out of not being 1337 with teh peecees.
macs are: sexy and hip, and have 100% propietary hardware which attributes the added stability over a frankensteined PC, the stability has little to do with the OS, and the macOS kernel / coding base is certainly in NO way superior to windows7, even now while unix based. although unix is definitely 1337, as kazrog said.
THE VIRUS IMMUNITY STATEMENT IS SILLY AND NO LONGER TRUE.
back in the days of macOS and powerPC's being RISC based, this was kinda true, just cause NOTHING BUT APPLE SOFTWARE would run on an apple. these days...not so much. Kids still say this because they're at their parents house all through high school struggling to use the windowsME machine that still has kazaa on it, and then for graduating high school they get a brand new macbook to be shipped off to college with. "dewd, this is so much better, wow windows stinx. i'm gonna order some dave matthews tickets with my new macbook" etc. etc.
whenever i get a new PC, i'm either building it (and budgeting around $400 for damn near state of the art) or I immediately format it and put a stripped down windows of my choice (modded vista32 at the moment) and install NO antivirus, NO firewalls, NO spyware protection of any kind, or any of that crap, and i never have ANY problems, ever. no viruses, no spyware (not since the 90's anyway) no nothing.
also, there is nothing sexier than having your PC in a rackmount chassis below your interface / power conditioner / pre's, etc.
if this seems over your head, fapple is probably the better choice.
also... excited about 32gb ram macs?? newer PC motherboards can go up to 128 gb. i fail to see what's to be excited about.
mick thompson
AKA: Ross Canpolat! SM!
if from what you wrote above you mean paying for a mac is an easy escape from general computing problems then IMHO that is a very retarded statement.
i compute to compute - when i pay hard earned cash on a piece of software and hardware i expect the dam thing to work to its maximum and I DO NOT expect to have to spend time on prepping the product - if the product is made to do something it should do it and do it perfectly without any problems - there is no difference then if by what you wrote if i understand correctly that " im going to buy a ferrari... its amazing when it works... but i have to spend days if not weeks tuning the engine"
i paid enough dam money for the thing i would expect it to work perfectly - thats where OSX is one step above Windows because its built to stably work with the hardware its sold with - in windows case its built to work generically meaning it has more code hiccups because it tries to deal with so many different hardware pieces from so many different manufactures - some being good, some being bogey fucks
i choose to pay the extra cash and get something that works because i entend to use the product for what its made to do, NOT to tweak and fix the thing
All the Above IMHO
hmm - how often do you receive a windows update? and what about windows 7's new black screen of death? i think the last time osx updated for me was a few weeks ago - prior to that was a few weeks before that - in the merry land of windows there is a f'ing update almost every 2nd or 3rd day - why? due to imperfections and breeches in the code - the reason that OSX has so little virus problems is because everything is built like small packages in the OS - everything is independent and nothing fully syncs into the entire OS - in windows case everything gets thrown into the registry and everything makes changes to everything else thus causing flaws - a simple webcam update from a secondary manufacture for windows can immediately cause a huge security risk for all windows users who installed it if its coded bad - that doesn't happen in mac land
i choose mac and i feel part of the elite club - i choose windows and i feel like everyone else - upset that my OS doesn't work the way i want it to
ELITE CLUB: being stability, sexy OS's & sexy design
me:
windows user for 11 years
mac user for 2.5 years
i swapped to mac because im sick of spending half my productive day fixing problems
there's your problem - lol
im willing to bet every piece of equipment i own that if i went to your pc with spybot, adaware, hijack this, smithfraudfix, avg and more crap i would most certainly find a problem - your telling me since the 1990's you've never had a piece of spyware or a virus? fucking hell half the websites you visit plant a tracking cookie onto your machine! scan the dam thing!
It's kind of a personal decision imo.
I switched to Mac because I ended up liking Logic more than my previous DAW.
I still have my PC though and use it to surf the net, chat, and play Tribes 2
I switched to Mac because I ended up liking Logic more than my previous DAW.
I still have my PC though and use it to surf the net, chat, and play Tribes 2
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
You can always look at things from multiple sides. For me personally, it's a huge PLUS that I can have Windows running on a system that is tailored to my needs in every point.
If you spend "half your productive day fixing problems on Windows" then you either have no clue how to work with the system and/or you bought shitty hardware with shitty support. 90% of the errors I've seen people encounter with Windows have been the user's fault.
That's the only reason why I contemplated buying a Mac for my mother, because I knew she would have a harder time fucking things up. Same with my girlfriend...
But for me personally, I see ZERO advantages in going back to Mac. Zero.
Just today, I ordered a new notebook that is quite similar in specs to the current Macbook. All quality components for half the money.
As much as I'd love to have a Mac again, because they are great machines with a nice OS, I just can't bring myself to justify that move.
Edit: That's the only thing that really angers me in the Mac vs. PC discussion: People who insist that one system is per se better than the other. Which is just gigantic bullshit.
If you spend "half your productive day fixing problems on Windows" then you either have no clue how to work with the system and/or you bought shitty hardware with shitty support. 90% of the errors I've seen people encounter with Windows have been the user's fault.
That's the only reason why I contemplated buying a Mac for my mother, because I knew she would have a harder time fucking things up. Same with my girlfriend...
But for me personally, I see ZERO advantages in going back to Mac. Zero.
Just today, I ordered a new notebook that is quite similar in specs to the current Macbook. All quality components for half the money.
As much as I'd love to have a Mac again, because they are great machines with a nice OS, I just can't bring myself to justify that move.
Edit: That's the only thing that really angers me in the Mac vs. PC discussion: People who insist that one system is per se better than the other. Which is just gigantic bullshit.
Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
you gotta be fucking kidding me!
shall I delete this thread, close it or just move it to OT?
seriously, we've all wittnessed countess of these threads, do we really need another one?
shall I delete this thread, close it or just move it to OT?
seriously, we've all wittnessed countess of these threads, do we really need another one?
Morgan C
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^ That's like the most vague question you could ask.
I have ZERO problems with Windows. My graphics mess up from time to time, because NVidia has stopped supporting my video card. My whole computer really needs an upgrade, and I have gotten 2 major viruses ever.. the first I was able to fix with zero lingering effects (and was totally, 100% the result of my stupidity), the second I have no idea how I got it (and it was one of the most serious viruses you can get, every website just recommended formatting the harddrive), but in the end I think I got rid of it, but clean installed Windows 7 just in case. Since then, nothing.
If you're getting errors, there's probably a reason why. And its honestly, probably not Window's fault.. its probably the 3rd party drivers/hardware or whatever that Windows has to cater for.
I have ZERO problems with Windows. My graphics mess up from time to time, because NVidia has stopped supporting my video card. My whole computer really needs an upgrade, and I have gotten 2 major viruses ever.. the first I was able to fix with zero lingering effects (and was totally, 100% the result of my stupidity), the second I have no idea how I got it (and it was one of the most serious viruses you can get, every website just recommended formatting the harddrive), but in the end I think I got rid of it, but clean installed Windows 7 just in case. Since then, nothing.
If you're getting errors, there's probably a reason why. And its honestly, probably not Window's fault.. its probably the 3rd party drivers/hardware or whatever that Windows has to cater for.
Joematthews
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I keep windows stable by keeping it as simple as possible in terms of hardware config, Less shit means less drivers and things to go wrong. I don't download much shit or go on dodgy websites (much ) and I run as few background programs as possible. Pretty simple really.
Joe
) and I run as few background programs as possible. Pretty simple really.Joe
drew_drummer
Dancefap
True, but what I can't understand is how CAN I use Windows wrong? Or does it go all the way to the point of building your own PC so it'll work? If that's the case, why did anyone ever buy complete PCs?
Just makes it sound like people like spending time in the system folder going "hee hee hee... I wonder what happens if I'll delete this..."
Morgan C
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As I said, the only annoyance in Windows 7 is like Ermz mentioned, the complex stuff is in really odd places. The whole Control Panel has been revamped and is very confusing and oversimplified.
I haven't had a single error or had ANYTHING go wrong with Windows 7 since I installed it about 6 months ago. As I said before, the majority of things that do go wrong in Windows are problems with 3rd party hardware/software when people build their own PCs, or because the user doesn't know what they're doing.
I'm sure Windows 7 is working better, but I was talking about my experiences with any of the previous versions of Windows. I made the switch before Windows 7. So does your last sentence only apply to Windows 7, or the previous versions of Windows? Because I'm pretty sure I how to use a PC, and still learnt the process of re-installing Windows all too well.
Morgan C
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I dunno man, I've never really had many problems with Windows, so I've never felt the urge to switch to Mac. Any problem I have had is usually solved by a restart or has a 5min solution on the first Google link you see. You'd be better off asking those people who claim they spend half the time fixing problems what was going wrong because I honestly don't know.
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
It's a variety of things really, that eventually culminate to a system that's unstable and/or lacking in its potential performance.
Quite often people will be running to much background tasks (which are loaded upon start up) which means you're bound for trouble sooner or later, because almost every program installs some pretty unnecessary things running in the background. Or they have dead registry entries slowing down the system... if you want to really streamline your system, you gotta know how to work the registry to a certain extent. And the system properties of course.
And yeah I have been fixing systems where people really did randomly delete some crucial files.
Or they don't know how to proper install and uninstall... including drivers. There's a manual for a reason.
Or people simply not running an anti virus program and a firewall. And there are still people who don't secure their Wifi.
Or people who mess with their BIOS, even though they have no clue. Or people who never defragmented their HDDs.
90% of these problems really boil down to extremely bloated systems.
