Master Bus Rape - Help

getting too much ring from the comp, turn down the release, actually make sure the damn snare is muted like a motherfucker if there is any sign of ringing, usually very light batter head dampening does the trick. But now dealing with it post recording would be to compress with a faster release. And I am definitely hearing the weird high frequency pumping from L2 meaning you have the threshold too low.

Again I go back to what I previously said. Compress the master fader ever slightly, with the threshold just high enough to make the pumping not obvious (this means no lower than -10db) throw GClip on it and edge off the transients, then L2 (or my recommendation L3) it as much as possible before it turns into a sloppy turd.

If you already mixed the tracks, this is probably where you need to learn the concept of getting the snare pretty loud in the premaster, because the velocity gets killed in the limiting process but if it is getting way killed, you are limiting too much, think of it as a supplement, not a steroid.

Listening to the first two clips I noticed that the untouched sounds a lot better and that the L2 is clamping too hard, back off the intensity of your compression, limiting and clipping, you really don't want to compete with Death Magnetic.
 
TheWinterSnow said:
getting too much ring from the comp, turn down the release, actually make sure the damn snare is muted like a motherfucker if there is any sign of ringing, usually very light batter head dampening does the trick. But now dealing with it post recording would be to compress with a faster release. And I am definitely hearing the weird high frequency pumping from L2 meaning you have the threshold too low.

Again I go back to what I previously said. Compress the master fader ever slightly, with the threshold just high enough to make the pumping not obvious (this means no lower than -10db) throw GClip on it and edge off the transients, then L2 (or my recommendation L3) it as much as possible before it turns into a sloppy turd.

If you already mixed the tracks, this is probably where you need to learn the concept of getting the snare pretty loud in the premaster, because the velocity gets killed in the limiting process but if it is getting way killed, you are limiting too much, think of it as a supplement, not a steroid.

Listening to the first two clips I noticed that the untouched sounds a lot better and that the L2 is clamping too hard, back off the intensity of your compression, limiting and clipping, you really don't want to compete with Death Magnetic.
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Okay here is my question. This effect on the snare is happening on only 2-3 songs from the 9 songs that I am mixing. So basically I'm going to just fuck with the L2 till I hope they all sound even. Because anyway when I bounce it down to master it (my self master effort) they will all pretty much sound uniform (snare sound etc). I think?
 
TheWinterSnow said:
getting too much ring from the comp, turn down the release, actually make sure the damn snare is muted like a motherfucker if there is any sign of ringing, usually very light batter head dampening does the trick. But now dealing with it post recording would be to compress with a faster release. And I am definitely hearing the weird high frequency pumping from L2 meaning you have the threshold too low.
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I tried everything from -0.1 to -10. It is definitely having an effect on the snare be it changing slightly to drastically to making it minimal by the GClip. All this is fine but my main question is when I bounce it down to master it I need to make sure at that point I dont face the same problem.

Again I go back to what I previously said. Compress the master fader ever slightly, with the threshold just high enough to make the pumping not obvious (this means no lower than -10db) throw GClip on it and edge off the transients, then L2 (or my recommendation L3) it as much as possible before it turns into a sloppy turd.
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yeah this kind of worked. I ran the waves C1 comp, glip and L2. The issue is I dont feel like I'm getting the loudness. But I guess I'll come to that later.

If you already mixed the tracks, this is probably where you need to learn the concept of getting the snare pretty loud in the premaster, because the velocity gets killed in the limiting process but if it is getting way killed, you are limiting too much, think of it as a supplement, not a steroid.

Listening to the first two clips I noticed that the untouched sounds a lot better and that the L2 is clamping too hard, back off the intensity of your compression, limiting and clipping, you really don't want to compete with Death Magnetic.
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My snare is definitely LOUD in the pre master. I most certainly don't want to compete with anything Metallica released lately.
 
okay I'm back from opening for Amon Amarth and Textures. Will get back to this mix now. Can anyone throw in some more light and suggestions on what I should do? I heard and analized my mix and most of the songs sound fine with what I was doing barring 2-3 tracks I dont know why :s
 
I forgot to mention, I did my take on the raw track and found that parallel compression/limiting works best. As your issue with the snare I forgot to mention also if you have excessive ring from compressing it, add a heavy gate to quickly kill the tail before the ringing sound can be noticed.
 
^^^^ but here is my question. This happens when I have an L2 on the mix which is anyway just there now because its a reference limter. But once I am done mixing I will bounce it down sans the L2 and then apply my mastering so when i remove the L2 the snare is absolutely fine so should I just put it into some sort of mastering and see if at that stage I can apply x y z so that this doesn't happen?
 
Okay so instead of acting like a cripple I just went ahead and mixed down the track that was giving me problems with the L2 and took the mix down into a new project and slapped on the L2 and it didn't fuck with the snare tone.

So that part is solved :p
 
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