METAL FOUNDRY SDX - New metal expansion for superior

Suicide_As_Alibi said:
Nah, they're literally like a ride with the outside cut off, but normally slightly exaggerated - they're normally about 2.5-4 inches high. They literally just sound like a bell on their own, they 'chime' more than sizzle; personally I don't like them.

I know a couple of guys that put them upside-down on top of their ride, and they sound much better like that to my ears

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My drummer has one and that shit rings out for ever. Annoying.
 
can't really judge it till it comes out and we all get to use it. I think it will sound good with a little bit of processing and better mixing.
 
I still remember some clips from the original DFHS done by Fredrik Thordendal that blew my mind. The shit was chunkier than any Meshuggah record. I think he covered some track from DEI and when those toms came in... gawd. Sonor FTW.
 
I think these clips sound fucking awesome. Toontrack does excel at making shit sound like real drums in real rooms, like really natural n shit. All these other drum VSTi's all have something that just sounds.. weird, robotic, un-natural, just generally fake, and they all seem to have a "sound" of their own as well, which you can hear a mile off, and thats personally not something im going for.
AD has it, SSD has it (albeit on purpose, which is absolutely fine, not slagging it off, its just not what im going for,) ezdrummer has it (never heard an expensive kit miced "well" that sounds like that..) DFHS has it (in terms of the way that it has a SOUND that you can hear a mile off)
superior 2.0 sounds real as fuck, fat, tight, natural.. just sounds like a professional drummer playing drums for you on an expensive kit miced with quality mics in a really nice room, just as it should do. heard so many vastly different sounding drum mixes come from superior 2.0 that all maintain that fat, real sound while rejecting sounding completely vanilla. toontrack is nailing that shit perfectly, and id say these clips all sound excellent.
 
TheXRatedDodo said:
I think these clips sound fucking awesome. Toontrack does excel at making shit sound like real drums in real rooms, like really natural n shit. All these other drum VSTi's all have something that just sounds.. weird, robotic, un-natural, just generally fake, and they all seem to have a "sound" of their own as well, which you can hear a mile off, and thats personally not something im going for.
AD has it, SSD has it (albeit on purpose, which is absolutely fine, not slagging it off, its just not what im going for,) ezdrummer has it (never heard an expensive kit miced "well" that sounds like that..) DFHS has it (in terms of the way that it has a SOUND that you can hear a mile off)
superior 2.0 sounds real as fuck, fat, tight, natural.. just sounds like a professional drummer playing drums for you on an expensive kit miced with quality mics in a really nice room, just as it should do. heard so many vastly different sounding drum mixes come from superior 2.0 that all maintain that fat, real sound while rejecting sounding completely vanilla. toontrack is nailing that shit perfectly, and id say these clips all sound excellent.
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Not trying to prove you wrong, more of a curiosity - wasn't DFHS Toontrack?

Also, what exactly do you mean SSD "has it on purpose"?
 
TheXRatedDodo said:
I think these clips sound fucking awesome. Toontrack does excel at making shit sound like real drums in real rooms, like really natural n shit. All these other drum VSTi's all have something that just sounds.. weird, robotic, un-natural, just generally fake, and they all seem to have a "sound" of their own as well, which you can hear a mile off, and thats personally not something im going for.
AD has it, SSD has it (albeit on purpose, which is absolutely fine, not slagging it off, its just not what im going for,) ezdrummer has it (never heard an expensive kit miced "well" that sounds like that..) DFHS has it (in terms of the way that it has a SOUND that you can hear a mile off)
superior 2.0 sounds real as fuck, fat, tight, natural.. just sounds like a professional drummer playing drums for you on an expensive kit miced with quality mics in a really nice room, just as it should do. heard so many vastly different sounding drum mixes come from superior 2.0 that all maintain that fat, real sound while rejecting sounding completely vanilla. toontrack is nailing that shit perfectly, and id say these clips all sound excellent.
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I agree with you 100%. I think people should reserve their judgments until users get their hands on this product and take it for a drive with their own manipulation. For me, its really nice to get additional kits to evolve your sound before the sampler becomes too widely used and instantly recognizable.
 
TheXRatedDodo said:
I think these clips sound fucking awesome. Toontrack does excel at making shit sound like real drums in real rooms, like really natural n shit. All these other drum VSTi's all have something that just sounds.. weird, robotic, un-natural, just generally fake, and they all seem to have a "sound" of their own as well, which you can hear a mile off, and thats personally not something im going for.
AD has it, SSD has it (albeit on purpose, which is absolutely fine, not slagging it off, its just not what im going for,) ezdrummer has it (never heard an expensive kit miced "well" that sounds like that..) DFHS has it (in terms of the way that it has a SOUND that you can hear a mile off)
superior 2.0 sounds real as fuck, fat, tight, natural.. just sounds like a professional drummer playing drums for you on an expensive kit miced with quality mics in a really nice room, just as it should do. heard so many vastly different sounding drum mixes come from superior 2.0 that all maintain that fat, real sound while rejecting sounding completely vanilla. toontrack is nailing that shit perfectly, and id say these clips all sound excellent.
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I disagree a bit. None of the drum samplers have realistic sounding hats or cymbals...or should I say they don't play realistic. You can disguise it a bit, sure...and put them lower in the mix but that's basically just trying to hide the unnaturalness :(
 
TheXRatedDodo said:
I think these clips sound fucking awesome. Toontrack does excel at making shit sound like real drums in real rooms, like really natural n shit. All these other drum VSTi's all have something that just sounds.. weird, robotic, un-natural, just generally fake, and they all seem to have a "sound" of their own as well, which you can hear a mile off, and thats personally not something im going for.
AD has it, SSD has it (albeit on purpose, which is absolutely fine, not slagging it off, its just not what im going for,) ezdrummer has it (never heard an expensive kit miced "well" that sounds like that..) DFHS has it (in terms of the way that it has a SOUND that you can hear a mile off)
superior 2.0 sounds real as fuck, fat, tight, natural.. just sounds like a professional drummer playing drums for you on an expensive kit miced with quality mics in a really nice room, just as it should do. heard so many vastly different sounding drum mixes come from superior 2.0 that all maintain that fat, real sound while rejecting sounding completely vanilla. toontrack is nailing that shit perfectly, and id say these clips all sound excellent.
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I understand your point of view but I don't really agree. The basic sound of toontracks are really more weak/round than a real kit being recorded by a bunch of mikes, or I don't get it maybe.

About the other products, I don't know for AD, but SSD proposes its raw samples too (except the toms if I remember well that only are proposed the unic way ?), and I really thing they sound better at first. I usually end up using other cymbals. I think Slate is recording some better cymbals and chinas though for 3.5. Also, the more I use SSD, the more I tweak the cymbals so that they sound well, because the recording is really good, it's the vibe we get from it that is a bit robotic at first.

It's a bit about tweaking too, but I don't think Toontracks products sound less robotic.

Don't get me wrong, I have both SSD and superior (and I just LOVED life when I discovered the existence of EZdrummer with drumkit from hell). I think they fit together well with some tweaking. I didn't like AD at first, but it seems it can be interesting for some complementarities too. I personnaly like using SSD kick/snare sometimes tom and use other cymbals, I try to use SSD ones though more and more.
 
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