Metal owes everything to the African American
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I remember watching Scorceses the Blues, in which the guitar was utilized because you only needed one guy to play the guitar- or one guy and a bassist/cello player. And just one or two people could record an album. So, in the 20's white record guys went out to Miss. etc, and started recording these one and two man bands like Robert Johnson- who was a one man band since he could play leads and rhytm at the same time. And of course the guitar style they were playing came from West africa.
Well thats how I remember it.
Well thats how I remember it.
lizard
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that's the truth. and for that matter, consider that metal bands have a "rhythm section" which includes a drummer.
so to wrap this all up in once simple sentence, Varg is a negro.
so to wrap this all up in once simple sentence, Varg is a negro.
HarmonyDies....
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Hehe, well that's what I did and alot of other thrash metal bands, course at first I didn't know it then I was like "OMG CRAZY!". Anywho, itll maybe help youre soloing if you care to learn them. But it's thrash so the priority is making it kick ass.Erik said:Scales? Thrash metal?
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HarmonyDies....
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MAYBE ITS SUBONCIOUS!
deep. Anywho, rock on anyways, thrash solos are just about FURY, I just used them as an example cause they are there.
deep. Anywho, rock on anyways, thrash solos are just about FURY, I just used them as an example cause they are there.
Great thrash solos = Jeff Waters, Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, Chris Poland
And if you don't buy that Annihilator or Megadeth are thrash per se, then I rest my case about the distinction between speed metal and thrash. Ho!
And if you don't buy that Annihilator or Megadeth are thrash per se, then I rest my case about the distinction between speed metal and thrash. Ho!
Ayeka
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To generalize:
Speed Metal is typically more technical & melodic. It includes melodious vocal lines and riff structures (lots of reverse power chords and intricate string picking). The solos all follow melody lines too (see Marty Friedman). You'll also get sweeping appregios, or bluesy emotional playing -- in other words, there are lots of hooks in the songs. See: Accept (who defined the term), through to Megadeth and Annihilator.
Thrash is all out devastation & terror, slightly more simplistic riff structures (regular power chords being 'thrashed' out). The solos are blistering and mostly void of any scale structure (see Kerry King), and the vocal lines are 'barked' out. The obvious next evolutionary step from these bands is death metal. There's not as much crowd singing along I guess. See: Slayer, Dark Angel, Lethal, Sepultura.
Bands that might sit in the middle: Metallica & Testament. Indeed, Metallica always denied the thrash labelling.
Not strict of course, just an opinion.
Speed Metal is typically more technical & melodic. It includes melodious vocal lines and riff structures (lots of reverse power chords and intricate string picking). The solos all follow melody lines too (see Marty Friedman). You'll also get sweeping appregios, or bluesy emotional playing -- in other words, there are lots of hooks in the songs. See: Accept (who defined the term), through to Megadeth and Annihilator.
Thrash is all out devastation & terror, slightly more simplistic riff structures (regular power chords being 'thrashed' out). The solos are blistering and mostly void of any scale structure (see Kerry King), and the vocal lines are 'barked' out. The obvious next evolutionary step from these bands is death metal. There's not as much crowd singing along I guess. See: Slayer, Dark Angel, Lethal, Sepultura.
Bands that might sit in the middle: Metallica & Testament. Indeed, Metallica always denied the thrash labelling.
Not strict of course, just an opinion.
Ayeka
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JK's description is a very much more eloquent version of what I thought: Thrash is dirty and evil!
Funnily enough while reading the speed metal bit I was thinking "Yup, that's Megadeth" right up to the word 'Megadeth' I also got Scream In The Night by Exciter in there.
I'd still be willing to classify Megadeth as Thrash through. Those first two albums are brutal as fuck enough for me!
Funnily enough while reading the speed metal bit I was thinking "Yup, that's Megadeth" right up to the word 'Megadeth'
I also got Scream In The Night by Exciter in there.I'd still be willing to classify Megadeth as Thrash through. Those first two albums are brutal as fuck enough for me!
Yeah, 'tis all good. Genre labelling is teh gay, but you know, sometimes it's helpful to point in the right direction.Ayeka said:I'd still be willing to classify Megadeth as Thrash through. Those first two albums are brutal as fuck enough for me!
I *think* that most people fit bands into genres based on their most 'prestigious' albums, e.g.:
Megadeth: Rust in Peace
Slayer: Reign in Blood
Sepultura: Beneath the Remains
Metallica: Master of Puppets
I mean, perhaps to prove the point, when describing Metallica, you would never use St Anger as the defining moment. Or you wouldn't pick anything post-Arise when labelling Sepultura. Etc, etc.
I dunno really.
Ayeka
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I'd say genre-defining is acceptable in order to differentiate totally differing styles (John Lee Hooker and Helloween was the example I used to some prats who basically proved why being open-minded sucks), and common sense can be used when the boundaries are blurred. And let's face it, tags such as 'Rock' and 'Metal' are broad enough to encompass most of the 'fuzzy' bands anyway...
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