My best rock mix so far (Panic-Room Master, Lasse Reamp)

[Ermz]

Thank ye guys.

@Josh: By Opals... for Opals. One thing I loved about these monitors was the extra depth. Immediately realized that my old monitors kept me blind, and all my mixes from years ago lacked in certain areas. The only trick now is keeping a mix sounding 'full' for people without playback systems like these.

Seems we've covered it all, more or less. From chorus plug-ins to granny porn. Good day's work.

 

[coreysMonster]

mother of zombie jesus, thats amazing :O

 

[Mikaël-ange]

German Mouse Clinic?

German mastering console

http://www.alessandroboschi.eu/html/en/german_mastering_console.htm

@Erm: really good job

 

[Pedro Teixeira]

I definitely dont think this is your best rock mix so far, I think its your best mix so far period! Seriously, good job, the depth in this is just simply amazing, the low-end is HUGE! Congrats dude. Did you use the GMC on the 2buss?

 

[Ermz]

^ Wow that's some nice props. Thanks a lot guys. I couldn't really decide if this beat out the Untruth CD by any 'objective' means. Just kinda rolled with it. Got several CDs coming in the next few months now, so let's see if we can raise that bar again, hah.

I used the Mammoth (Massive Passive emulation) on the master bus to bump the lows. I imagine from how Plec is raving that he used the GMC again during mastering. So I get the feeling you're hearing quite a bit of stuff on there. Nebula Massive Passive, Nebula Tape (please correct me if I'm wrong with that one, Plec), Nebula GMC, Nebula SSL... and Algorithmix too? I don't know what Plec does, I like to stay ignorant so I can say 'whooo that sounds good' when I get it back and just treat it like a listener. Best part about not mastering your own stuff!

 

[dasbrootal]

Sounds freakin' massive. Great work!

 

[Machinated]

very good job on your mixing ermz, but the vocals make this much more boring than it should be. SO MANY places where bringing in harmonies etc could add more life to the vocals that have just been left kind of disappoints me....its kind of screaming for them imo

 

[[UEAK]Clowd]

I'm jealous of your vocal compression skills. they sound soooooo legit.

 

[Plec]

Yeah, mastering this wasn't a very advanced thing since Ermz mixes are some of the best I ever get to work on. We're both Nebula-holics nowadays I guess. It's the most unintuitive non-user friendly but best sounding plugin system around, bar none IMO.

Besides what Ermin put on the 2-bus you're hearing CDS R2R (Studer recorder) and Alex B GMC for Nebula plus a couple filters from Algorithmix Orange, so no analog EQ on this. On compression there's a good dose of Alan Smart C2 which is just perfect for these type of mixes and then there's a special combination of secret sauce stuff going down in small doses for level and overall glue.

 

[Ermz]

Yeah, mastering this wasn't a very advanced thing since Ermz mixes are some of the best I ever get to work on. We're both Nebula-holics nowadays I guess. It's the most unintuitive non-user friendly but best sounding plugin system around, bar none IMO.

Besides what Ermin put on the 2-bus you're hearing CDS R2R (Studer recorder) and Alex B GMC for Nebula plus a couple filters from Algorithmix Orange, so no analog EQ on this. On compression there's a good dose of Alan Smart C2 which is just perfect for these type of mixes and then there's a special combination of secret sauce stuff going down in small doses for level and overall glue.

Ahhh! That's why it pumps like a mutha. I was running my GSSL with up to 8dB gain reduction already on the master bus :Smokin:! Haha, that's awesome, getting perspective on how much compression actually went into this...

"so no analog EQ on this"



Do you think Nebula can function as a replacement for analog EQs if you're just doing simple stuff like shelving? I don't really have any on hand to compare, but I'm curious as to how good it actually is.

 

[Plec]

Hahaha! 8db!
You can never have enough compression, eh?

I think the Smart is taking off 2db at most so it's not total overkill though.

Yes, I sure do think Nebula is capable of replacing it quality wise to the point that no one would ever notice the difference. I can' STAND using EQ in nebula though since you need to load in a new instance for every single filter you'd want to use. Like a 4band SSL EQ with lp/hp filters would need 6 instances of Nebula and I for one would not be able to use that workflow wise.

For mastering, and for a single filter or two it's ok to work with IMO. I demoed the CDS Cooltec also and it sounded amazing to me, but for mastering I have the Massive Passive hardware and the two sounded very much alike so I didn't feel the need to grab it right away. But will probably do so for mixing purposes.

 

[Sickan]

I'm astounded, really professional sounding in every aspect, great work Ermz!
Was this the Ibanez BTB705DX? DC and/or P5 pickups?

EDIT:
Great song btw, been looping it for a while now.

 

[Ermz]

Glad to hear you're liking it, Sickan. CD comes out early November I think. The myspace has the full info. No idea what the guitars were!

@Plec: Yeah man, I had to resort to Andy Wallace settings. I've been trying the Randy 12dB reduction for about a year now and just can't do it no matter what, so I had to take it down a notch and only do up to 8 or so, with different (more pleasing) release settings. Took me a fair few months to even get capable of mixing with such large GR... its hard... far out. It's so unforgiving, you literally cannot miss-balance anything without the whole thing pumping to holy hell.

Agreed about Nebula and EQ. Really, really impractical. It's a shame the developers don't feel a need at the moment to streamline it in order to aid user-friendliness. I mostly just use one instance of Nebula on important tracks/busses as the high shelf. It boosts highs like no other ITB plugs can IMO, so it can help. I really like the Mammoth for boosting highs on overheads . Will try that Cooltec there soon too, glad to hear you like that one... I still want to get a hardware clone made.

 

[Sickan]

I was referring to:

Once we get the Ibanez BTB705DX we'll likely do back-to-back recording comparisons of DC-DC, P5-DC and P5-P5.

Know what bass and pickups were being used here?

 

[Connord00d]

haha dude your vocal processing is just 100% yes. Drum tone is perfect overall mix is perfect.

 

[Ermz]

^ Thanks!

@Sickan: No that definitely was not it. The session bassist, Evan used his own bass guitar and recording chain for the project. I didn't record anything for this. I'm not sure what he used.