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fugazi. said:
But how does one tell the difference? Because a teenager might just be in love with the concept of love, and not see that there is an abuse thing going on. Teenage mind is very susceptible, and that's why there is a law forbidding this. It's better to be safe than sorry.

And in my opinion if a grown man finds a 13 year old attractive, it's not normal.
Exactly. A child's mind can be abused even if that mind doesn't realize it. There's quite a few children who are victims of incest who think (up to a certain age) that it's all normal.
 
Stormrider1981 said:
There is no way to determine someone's maturity objectively and accurately.

I see no reason to accept this as true without evidence. I do acknowledge the difficulty inherent in ensuring that the testing is administered objectively and accurately.

fugazi. said:
But a 13-year old person is still in the middle of puberty and in the process of becoming an adult. The development is psychological as well as physical. She might be fertile, but in my opinion not ready for parenthood.

And to get back to the topic: Pedophiles aren't fucking children because of their love for them, they're doing it because it gets them off. It's sexual exploitation.

People that are not physically and mentally (and financially) prepared to be parents (to whatever degree that is actually possible) should not become parents. To do so is endangering the health and well being of the child.

Pedophilia is defined as a psycholgical illness that results in sexual attraction primarily or exclusively to pre-pubescent children. Yes, they are doing it because it gets them off.

Being sexually attracted to a physically developed person of any age is biology. Why be ashamed of biology? You aren't required to act on it.

Having sex with a sexually matured yet underaged person does not make you a child molestor. It makes you an asshole. And, quite possibly, a felon.

Gubrathcoille said:
I wasn't a mentally adult person at 13.

When does someone become mentally an adult? Is the process driven by biology or environment? How do you know when you are mentally an adult? How can you be sure there is not some yet undiscovered level of maturity that will cause you to reflect on your life and think how immature you were until now?

And just so we can get off the pregnancy topic: Sex does not equal pregnancy. Our ability to prevent pregnancy in fertile people is staggering in comparison to our ability to cause pregnancy in infertile people.