Nevermore release date...

[General Zod]

"This Godless Endeavor" will be released July 26th.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36503

Zod

 

[jimbobhickville]

where's a damn mp3? Anyway, thx for the heads up.

 

[ProgMetalFan]

Cool. I hope it's better than the massively disappointing "Enemies of Reality"

 

[General Zod]

Cool. I hope it's better than the massively disappointing "Enemies of Reality"

I've dusted off and reserved my #1 spot of 2005 for this CD. Anything short of that will be a disappointment. With Sneap back in the healm, Smyth added to the fold, and off the heals of what the band has to recognize as a misstep, I expect nothing less.

Zod

 

[Dark One]

I've dusted off and reserved my #1 spot of 2005 for this CD. Anything short of that will be a disappointment. With Sneap back in the healm, Smyth added to the fold, and off the heals of what the band has to recognize as a misstep, I expect nothing less.

Zod

I'm going to do the opposite and expect the production level and songrwriting quality of Enemies of Reality. That way, if and when the new album exceeds my expectations, I'll still be happy even if it's not another Politics.. or Dead Heart...

I almost always find that when I hype something up so much, it's next to impossible for that something not to disappoint in some way. This is a major reason why those albums that grab my attention and become my favorites by a particular band are often those albums that are introduced to me without prior knowledge of the band, and not anticipated by me. Not always.... but definitely more often than not.

That said, I'm looking forward to this one big time.

 

[Demonspell]

I'm with Zod on this one, after the blunder that was the original release of EOR and securing the full support of their formerly uncooperative label and a spot on a major tour, they need to deliver something on the same level as DNB or Dead Heart. I'm sure they will.

 

[lizard]

yup, this is a critical juncture in their career. A killer CD combined with the high profile tour is an opportunity to take advantage off....or fall on your face.

 

[General Zod]

I'm going to do the opposite and expect the production level and songrwriting quality of Enemies of Reality. That way, if and when the new album exceeds my expectations, I'll still be happy even if it's not another Politics.. or Dead Heart...

There's just no way for me to mentally downplay the release of a new Nevermore CD. I can try to act like something less than a stellar release wouldn't be a huge disappointment, but that wouldn't help me avoid the feelings of disappointment if they they jumped the shark.

I almost always find that when I hype something up so much, it's next to impossible for that something not to disappoint in some way. This is a major reason why those albums that grab my attention and become my favorites by a particular band are often those albums that are introduced to me without prior knowledge of the band, and not anticipated by me. Not always.... but definitely more often than not.

"Dead Heart" met my expectations, so did "The Odyssey". Overall, I agree with what you're saying. But as I said, there's just no way to minimize the excitement you feel, when one of your favorite artists releases something new.

That said, I'm looking forward to this one big time.

Zod

 

[Tide In Mind Out]

JOLLY GOOD!!

 

[Dark One]

I agree with what you're saying. But as I said, there's just no way to minimize the excitement you feel, when one of your favorite artists releases something new.

I definitely agree that the excitement factor is hard to contain. It's just that from my point of view, WANTING a new release by one of your favorite bands to be incredible, and EXPECTING that same new release to be incredible are two different things.

If I want an album to be incredible and it's merely good, I still feel somewhat satisfied. If I expect an album to be incredible and it's merely good, I'm very disappointed.

Eh.... this is overanalyzing the whole thing and pointless. Let's just all hope it ROCKS!!!!

Like you said........

 

[JayKeeley]

What did you guys find disappointing in Enemies of Reality? I'm not one to compare, considering I'm not as much of a Nevermore fan, but I thought it was ok. I didn't go into it with any expectations.

If you didn't like EoR due to it's production, that's one thing. If you didn't like it because the songs themselves were crappy, then that's a bad sign for the band. History teaches us that once a band starts on the slippery slope, it's difficult to reverse the trend.

I also assume that Nevermore falls victim to always having people compare each new release with THAT one magnum opus, whichever one it might be -- Dreaming Neon Black I guess?

 

[ProgMetalFan]

What did you guys find disappointing in Enemies of Reality? I'm not one to compare, considering I'm not as much of a Nevermore fan, but I thought it was ok. I didn't go into it with any expectations.

If you didn't like EoR due to it's production, that's one thing. If you didn't like it because the songs themselves were crappy, then that's a bad sign for the band. History teaches us that once a band starts on the slippery slope, it's difficult to reverse the trend.

I also assume that Nevermore falls victim to always having people compare each new release with THAT one magnum opus, whichever one it might be -- Dreaming Neon Black I guess?

The production was horrendous... but my main reason for not liking EoR is the sharp decline in songwriting quality.

 

[Chromatose]

The production was horrendous... but my main reason for not liking EoR is the sharp decline in songwriting quality.

and yet I'll point out there's a sharp incline in songwriting quality compared to Dead Heart, funny huh

 

[General Zod]

What did you guys find disappointing in Enemies of Reality? I'm not one to compare, considering I'm not as much of a Nevermore fan, but I thought it was ok. I didn't go into it with any expectations.

The production aside, it wasn't a bad disc, just not up to par.

If you didn't like EoR due to it's production, that's one thing. If you didn't like it because the songs themselves were crappy, then that's a bad sign for the band. History teaches us that once a band starts on the slippery slope, it's difficult to reverse the trend.

The production hurt it tremedously. However, I think a number of other factors contributed. As I understand it, CM cut their recording budget by two thirds. Aside from the fact that this meant them losing Sneap, it also meant that rather than recording in their usual studio, they had to record in Jeff's house. If CM was being this hardline with their negotiating tactics, I'd be surprised if they weren't threatening the band with withholding tour support. Add into this the prospect of shopping for a new deal, and I have to imagine that the band was not in a state of mind condusive to writng music.

I also assume that Nevermore falls victim to always having people compare each new release with THAT one magnum opus, whichever one it might be -- Dreaming Neon Black I guess?

Perhaps. I think their fanbase expects change, and accepts it readily. I don't think there is an expectation that a CD should be of a certain sound, more that it should be of a certain quality.

Zod

 

[Dev]

and yet I'll point out there's a sharp incline in songwriting quality compared to Dead Heart, funny huh

EoR is the less good of the 3 last Nevermore albums .

Fact.

[/idon'tlistentoNevermorebutfeellikeIhadtogiveanopinion]

 

[Chromatose]

EoR is the less good of the 3 last Nevermore album .

Fact.

[/idon'tlistentoNevermorebutfeellikeIhadtogiveanopinion]

har har

opinions do not equal facts

 

[lizard]

well personally, if the band and the label were having a pissing contest, the fans shouldn't have to suffer for it.

 

[MFJ]

well personally, if the band and the label were having a pissing contest, the fans shouldn't have to suffer for it.

Nevermore can fuck right off, but I agree.

 

[Chromatose]

Nevermore can fuck right off, but I agree.

zing!

nevermore is neither kvlt nor tr00 enough for max johnson these days.

 

[MFJ]

No, I just think that their music is fucking terrible. I owned Dead Heart in a Dead World, and I've heard most of their other stuff. My involvement in the Neverboard was only for the good company, nothing else. I did not have sexual relations with that woman.