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Music theory rates Whoracle higher, it just hits different, because it suffers for being the second in line to a good record, so even if it's improved on it in many ways, it's not as memorable of an experience for people. TJR went from unknown, so 0, to great for many people, let's say 92 (on a standard music theory scale of 103), so it floored people. Whoracle improving that to 98 was not nearly as a big hit.
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Okay but if that logic was true I'd like whoracle more because I have no nostalgia associated with either and when I listened through in flames's discography I went in reverse chronological order so I heard whoracle before TJR. It's purely subjective. Music theory makes zero difference to an albums success and the difference it makes to how enjoyable an album is is entirely subjective.
So it turns out the reason Ultimate Vocal Remover never recognised that I had an NVIDIA graphics card was because my driver was something like 2 years out of date. Pretty sure that's why I could never get Stable Diffusion to work either. Annoying. Anyway, now rather than taking 7-10 mins to create an instrumental it takes about 1 minute, so if anyone has an requests, give me a holla 
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Whoracle has some great songs on it but it also has a lot of not very memorable ones for me - not bad songs, still good, just forgettable and unremarkable - but for me TJR is front to back bangers
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So it turns out the reason Ultimate Vocal Remover never recognised that I had an NVIDIA graphics card was because my driver was something like 2 years out of date. Pretty sure that's why I could never get Stable Diffusion to work either. Annoying. Anyway, now rather than taking 7-10 mins to create an instrumental it takes about 1 minute, so if anyone has an requests, give me a holla
So does this mean you're the channel who has been uploading instrumentals of all the new in flames singles to YouTube then?
Nah, I only upload files for the broskis here.
I was going through the Whoracle tracklist and honestly it was like, 9/10 or 10/10 for everything except the title track, which is basically just an outro instrumental anyway and really nice in its own right. Whereas on TJR there is Dead God in Me which is only a 7.5/10 for me, and thus brings it slightly below Whoracle in the overall standings. Also whilst I'd say TJR has a lot of 9/10 tracks for me, Whoracle has more 10/10's with Jotun, Gyroscope, Jester Script and Episode 666.
I think of Whoracle as more "userfriendly" than TJR. It's easier to get into it. I guess it's because the melodies are more polished. I don't know. Still, it's due to the melodies that I like it more than the previous effort. I also feel like it's more balanced when it comes to the use of different pacings. Like it's a perfect combination of slow, fast and midtempo songs.
The opening to Gyroscope still leaves me in awe even after hearing it countless times over the last 23 years or so. That song is just an absolute masterpiece.
Yep, totally agree. I said the same exact thing. DotL is flat compared to the new IF. If they had the same production they would have dominated.
Agree TJR is awesomely mixed. Old school? Yes. But pretty much perfect for the tone. Anyone that complains, turn up the volume. When loud the mix is perfect.
But Colony shitty? Wow. Colony to me is 10/10 IF sound to me. Better than Clayman for sure.
TJR actually sounded “ancient” 23 years ago when I first heard it. It’s not about the age. Like eochaid said, it sounds timeless. The production evokes a nostalgic bittersweet past. It was designed that way on purpose. It hasn’t aged, it was always that way, and it always will be.
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