In Spain, we have a representative government. Which implies that the president and the government and choosen by the parliament. The oposition (right and alt-right) is been insisting that we're living under a dictatorship because none of the rest of the parties wanted to vote for them.
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The main problem with deomcracy in its current format, in this country at least, is that a ton of people treat political parties like they're a sports team to support. No matter what their policies, or how much grotesque shit they do, certain people will vote for them no matter what. In the UK that gives the Tories and Labour automatic #1 and #2 in every election, no matter what. The Conservatives have run this country into the fucking ground over the past 14 years, showed a combination of gross incompetence and publicly exposed, blatant corruption across their ranks... and they still have the second most seats in parliament. Labour won the election by a landslide, but still, no other party stands a chance.
It renders the entire system somewhat pointless. It's a limited democracy at best because only two parties can ever actually win. All because of that natural tribalistic instinct within humans that seems worse than ever nowadays. At election time every person should sit down, read all manifestos and decide for themselves which party suits them best. Instead most people just vote for the same party every time - or the party which spreads the most hate about immigrants, people on benefits, etc - and spend the election period shitting on their perceived rivals. It's just sad.
Well, our far right parties also do this - but more in regards to the FPTP system. They have a point, honestly, as the FPTP system is pretty outdated and unfair... but it's stopping some seriously fucked up people getting into power, so for now I'm grateful for it. If the election simply went to the popular vote I imagine before long we'd be the same as the States, heading for an absolute lunatic in charge who promises impossible things and builds their entire campaign on division and hatred. What I've come to realise, though, is that there's a huge amount of people who want that - maybe even need it. You simply wouldn't vote for these people if you had any kind of conscience or sense of humanity. I'd happily say that (and have said that) to the faces of people voting for the likes of Trump and Farage. Get fucked. All you're voting for is hatred and you deserve to live in a world that's burning to the ground. Me, less so.
The Grayfox
Gravesinger
People here worship political parties too. It's almost as if people can't think for themselves. The reason I don't support one specific party is because all of my views and beliefs don't fall under the umbrella of one. I live in California, a notoriously liberal state. I lean left because I have much less problems with the left's views. I have no problem with LGBTQ+ rights, I want more affordable housing for low income families. The right loves to call the left "radical" but it's part of their insane hypocrisy. If you were to go to Alabama and ask some 30-something year old why they vote Republican, there is a good chance that they will tell you "well, my family has always voted Republican." "Cool, but why do you vote Republican? "Well my grandfather voted that way and so did his father." "Oh ok, that clears it up for me, thanks." Most of them vote that way because growing up, they are told to. That's the party that loves to scream about 'indoctrination." The same people who force religion on their children. You can't make this stuff up. They do not know how to think for themselves. They live their lives on blind faith.
The wife of the man who was killed at Trump's rally refused a phone call from Joe Biden because her husband was a "devout Republican and didn't like him." I can't even begin to put into words how asinine that is. The PRESIDENT called YOUR HOME and you REFUSED IT. Meanwhile, Trump hit the links and made sure he didn't miss his tee time. No phone call. The whole thing is ludicrous. The Trumpers see nothing wrong with any of this. I just want to go back to a time when politics were boring.
The wife of the man who was killed at Trump's rally refused a phone call from Joe Biden because her husband was a "devout Republican and didn't like him." I can't even begin to put into words how asinine that is. The PRESIDENT called YOUR HOME and you REFUSED IT. Meanwhile, Trump hit the links and made sure he didn't miss his tee time. No phone call. The whole thing is ludicrous. The Trumpers see nothing wrong with any of this. I just want to go back to a time when politics were boring.
I was just in the local second hand store and saw they had two In Flames albums, Reroute and SOAPF.
Seriously tho, £8 for a used audio cd from 2011? Lmao. It wouldn't have been that much more expensive here brand new at release.
With that said, I checked around online and other than eBay there wasn't anywhere selling it cheaper, so idk. You can get the edition with the dvd from eBay for £7 though.
Reroute was £3. I guess for some reason it didn't hold its' value compared to SOAPF?
Seriously tho, £8 for a used audio cd from 2011? Lmao. It wouldn't have been that much more expensive here brand new at release.
With that said, I checked around online and other than eBay there wasn't anywhere selling it cheaper, so idk. You can get the edition with the dvd from eBay for £7 though.
Reroute was £3. I guess for some reason it didn't hold its' value compared to SOAPF?
Is there a chance of the Tories alligning with the fascists? Because that's what's happening here. The "moderate" traditional right is in local and regional governments with the fascists.
Well, the Tories were basically taken over by the right-wing fascists within their own party. The far-right element of the party is what pushed for and eventually achieved Brexit - insomuch as you can call such a crazy act of self-destruction an achievement. Pieces of shit like Priti Patel, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson, Suella Braverman, Liz Truss and various other quasi-authoritarian dickheads came to power and tried in various ways to undercut and weaken public freedoms and the democratic state.
Fortunately, these people were too egotistical to work together and it ended up being a snakepit were they all poisoned each other until the cowardly snake at the back, Sunak, was the only one left. He played out the dying days of the Tory government, which by that point was so fractured there was no hope of them being re-elected.
You have other far right parties like Heritage, but nobody gives a shit about them as their policies mainly boil down to "down with the foreigns and the gays". Nigel Farage's new group, Reform, meanwhile gives a more polite version of that message whilst also promising to finally deliver on that elusive Brexit promise. They actually got a decent amount of the vote, but even if they combined with the Tories it wouldn't have been enough to topple Labour. That aside, the Conservatives and Reform have some bad blood, mainly stemming from historical exclusions (Reform members tend to be Conservatives who were too extreme even for that disgusting party) and the Tories being pissed off that Reform takes a chunk of the vote which would otherwise likely go to them.
I think because of Brexit a lot of people in the UK think of xenophobia and general exclusionary practice as uniquely British. I can show news articles from basically all other countries in the world showing otherwise. Middle East is far worse. Majority of Asia is far worse. Eastern Europe is far worse. Africa is far worse. Many European countries are also struggling with a rising tide of intolerance and hatred as people get desperate and thrash around looking a group of people to blame for their misery. They'll never look in the direction of the rich, though, because that's who most of them aspire to be.
So yeah, unhappy world with increasingly desperate people in it resorts to increasingly far right ideals which will only accelerate the inevitable collapse.
So yeah, unhappy world with increasingly desperate people in it resorts to increasingly far right ideals which will only accelerate the inevitable collapse.
The Grayfox
Gravesinger
Xenophobia is interesting here because it exists from state to state. In California, most of the state is very accepting of people from other states and other countries. It's a melting of pot of many, many people from many backgrounds. This is where I grew up, so I was raised around people from basically everywhere. There are other states where it's very much the same. Or I should say major cities. Every state in America has large rural areas and within those areas exist the real xenophobes. Even in California -- go to San Francisco, Sacramento, Los Angeles, San Diego and you'll be fine no matter where you're from. Go 30 minutes in any direction from any of those cities and you're in Redneck Land. Generally intolerant people.
I moved to Colorado and was there for a bit. When I moved there, I was looking at homes and my realtor flat out told me "make sure you change your license plate as soon as you can, because people here don't like Californians." I thought she was kidding. She wasn't. I never got hassled because of the way I look, but my wife who is a small woman did. She experienced it quite often actually. Anyway, the point is, I've never run into a person from a different city, a different state, a different country and thought "what the hell are you doing here?" If anything, I'm intrigued to know how they ended up in my city. People in Texas are much the same as Coloradans and I'll just never understand it. People think they own the areas they live in or something, like they should be able to control who steps into their city or state. The whole thing is really absurd to me.
Because of things like this, I know people who are afraid to travel to other countries. America has a lot of negative stigma surrounding it. The loud obnoxious ones ruin it for everyone else. That's why people who travel from America to other countries will sometimes tell the local people they're from Canada. A lot of us are embarrassed by all of it. Go on YouTube and watch clips from the RNC. Watch Hulk Hogan come out and rip his shirt off. Watch Donald Trump come out with lit up signs and music. It is an absolute circus. There is no mystery why people look at America and fucking laugh.
I moved to Colorado and was there for a bit. When I moved there, I was looking at homes and my realtor flat out told me "make sure you change your license plate as soon as you can, because people here don't like Californians." I thought she was kidding. She wasn't. I never got hassled because of the way I look, but my wife who is a small woman did. She experienced it quite often actually. Anyway, the point is, I've never run into a person from a different city, a different state, a different country and thought "what the hell are you doing here?" If anything, I'm intrigued to know how they ended up in my city. People in Texas are much the same as Coloradans and I'll just never understand it. People think they own the areas they live in or something, like they should be able to control who steps into their city or state. The whole thing is really absurd to me.
Because of things like this, I know people who are afraid to travel to other countries. America has a lot of negative stigma surrounding it. The loud obnoxious ones ruin it for everyone else. That's why people who travel from America to other countries will sometimes tell the local people they're from Canada. A lot of us are embarrassed by all of it. Go on YouTube and watch clips from the RNC. Watch Hulk Hogan come out and rip his shirt off. Watch Donald Trump come out with lit up signs and music. It is an absolute circus. There is no mystery why people look at America and fucking laugh.
I know this is not true but, a lot of times, the image of America to the outside is that of a poorly developed country in terms of social culture. And all that culture regarding weapons doesn't help.
As Dave Mustaine once sang on Washington is Next "the new slavery is to keep the people poor and stupid". The way it's done is insidious too. Technically knowledge is everywhere, but we're conditioned from a young age to care more about vacuous, unimportant things. Education is given in prison-like environments with standardised testing that causes emotional distress. Many people associate learning with bad memories and so as adults don't pursue it any further.
The Grayfox
Gravesinger
Yep. And a lot of people who actually live in America feel much the same. I find that it's not difficult to be tolerant of people. You don't have to understand, you don't even have to like a person's choices, but being tolerant isn't difficult. It's not difficult to not be a prick. The biggest issue here is that people don't even try to understand. Take the Black Lives Matter movement. Nobody was saying that other lives DON'T matter, just that black lives DO. But this country can't wrap their heads around a statement like that. All they hear is "oh, this is white shaming. OUR LIVES MATTER TOO!" Pride parades, a place for people to celebrate once a year and all the straight white males are like "why don't I get a day to celebrate being straight and white?" You can't even begin to explain it to them and you might as well not try because they won't get it. And that's the saddest part, when you give up trying to explain something to someone because you already know they'll refuse to hear it.
I actually think for a lot of people it is difficult not to be an intolerant prick. I can't explain otherwise why so many people seem to default to this position without even being self-aware enough to realise. Or alternatively, not having enough empathy to care. I don't think it's a natural way to exist, but it is how many in the West, at least, evolve from childhood to adulthood. Entitlement in many countries is absolutely off the scale.
And the sad thing is, everyone could live comfortable, decent lives. We have the intelligence and the resources for this. The problem we have is that the current system relies on there being a small amount of haves and a vast majority of have-nots. And this isn't me shooting down capitalism in favour of communism or socialism or some other government structure. It goes a lot deeper than that. No matter what the system, those who want power and control are inherently going to be greedy, narcissistic and selfish. Probably leaning towards being sociopathic as well. The people who want power in any society are going to be the ones least capable of using it in a way to benefit everyone.
What I find most tragic is how people have been conditioned to see these CEOs, millionaires, billionaires, entrepeneurs as the heroes and saviours of society. The people to look up to and aspire to be. As opposed to thinking, fuck me, these people have collectively ruined the planet and society in general for their own gain - and despite amassing more wealth than anyone would realistically need in a single lifetime, they continue to spend it on islands, mansions,, cars, golf courses and other bullshit whilst an uncountable amount of people and animals across the world starve, suffer and die in horrific ways.
Probably, the sooner we die out as a species the better. I appreciate that sounds misanthropic but I don't really mean it in that way. I just think we'll do more harm than good if we continue for too much longer, and it'd be better for us to be gone before we develop the capability to enact some truly catastrophic event that goes beyond Earth. The thought of our species heading out into space is pretty terrifying. Like a plague spreading out across the cosmos.
And the sad thing is, everyone could live comfortable, decent lives. We have the intelligence and the resources for this. The problem we have is that the current system relies on there being a small amount of haves and a vast majority of have-nots. And this isn't me shooting down capitalism in favour of communism or socialism or some other government structure. It goes a lot deeper than that. No matter what the system, those who want power and control are inherently going to be greedy, narcissistic and selfish. Probably leaning towards being sociopathic as well. The people who want power in any society are going to be the ones least capable of using it in a way to benefit everyone.
What I find most tragic is how people have been conditioned to see these CEOs, millionaires, billionaires, entrepeneurs as the heroes and saviours of society. The people to look up to and aspire to be. As opposed to thinking, fuck me, these people have collectively ruined the planet and society in general for their own gain - and despite amassing more wealth than anyone would realistically need in a single lifetime, they continue to spend it on islands, mansions,, cars, golf courses and other bullshit whilst an uncountable amount of people and animals across the world starve, suffer and die in horrific ways.
Probably, the sooner we die out as a species the better. I appreciate that sounds misanthropic but I don't really mean it in that way. I just think we'll do more harm than good if we continue for too much longer, and it'd be better for us to be gone before we develop the capability to enact some truly catastrophic event that goes beyond Earth. The thought of our species heading out into space is pretty terrifying. Like a plague spreading out across the cosmos.
Indeed. It's like men, specially in western countries, asking why there's not a straight male pride day. Well. I don't know how to explain them that they have not been assaulted, prosecuted, discriminated against or killed for being straight males.
I agree and I see it every day on social medias. Specially men, that are proud of being a bunch sociopathic morons whose pathetic lives seem to be only worthy (for them) when they insult or threaten everyone around. I cannot understand how someone can be proud of being a racist mysoginistic violent cunt and still think that they are good persons.
I see Biden's stepped aside. So much for God being the only thing that could force him to quit the race. Turns out there was actually one other thing - indeed, the only thing he and the American political establishment value above the good lord almighty - money. Once the donors started pulling their funds he was done.
ThePhobiac
be at ease
Biden made the hardest decision of his life. You would think that maybe in this situation Donald would write something decent, but no. He continues to rant how Biden is the worst president of all time and how the elections are crooked. If this bullying manchild is the new president, humans do not deserve to live in this planet.
And Foregone still sucks. There are some good moments, but vocals are so prosessed that it sounds like the album was made by AI. It actually makes me sad. With more natural and organic vocals I think I really could have enjoyed the album.
And Foregone still sucks. There are some good moments, but vocals are so prosessed that it sounds like the album was made by AI. It actually makes me sad. With more natural and organic vocals I think I really could have enjoyed the album.
I love the transition from shitting on Trump to shitting on Foregone 
making me proud bro.
But yeah, Foregone still sucks and Trump still sucks. Life is bleak at the moment, regardless of Phobiac's attempts to suggest otherwise. The only thing In Flames washes away is their dignity every time they shack up with Benson and his cronies in the studio.
making me proud bro.But yeah, Foregone still sucks and Trump still sucks. Life is bleak at the moment, regardless of Phobiac's attempts to suggest otherwise. The only thing In Flames washes away is their dignity every time they shack up with Benson and his cronies in the studio.
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