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Meh. It is normal for bands to evolve. But right now they sound just like new Katatonia to me.
 
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new anathema sucks. it seems like a forced sound, like they are trying their best to not be heavy. their older stuff was raw and had far more emotion then this new "atmospheric fag shit". :hotjump:
 
new anathema sucks. it seems like a forced sound, like they are trying their best to not be heavy. their older stuff was raw and had far more emotion then this new "atmospheric fag shit". :hotjump:

They haven't done anything this heavy since Judgement...just because they aren't tuned down to B and growling doesn't mean it isn't heavy, and it most definitely isn't "atmospheric fag shit".

In fact, I'll take this "atmospheric fag shit" over just about anything else that has come out this year, aside from the new Hour of Penance. I guess knowing how to write proper harmonies and actually COMPOSE music makes it faggy, rather than just throwing together riffs and sweeping combined with blast beats, double kick and polka beats and calling it "songwriting".

There's nowhere else to go in metal unless you want to rehash what has been done over the past 20 years. It's a dead end street. That may be fine for you, with your denim sleeveless jacket and your gigantic Venom patch on the back and bullet belt, but I'll pass. I like death, black, folk, thrash and doom metal but I don't see a lot of them taking many chances and experimenting with new ideas and creating something actually listenable while experimenting. There are exceptions but usually those exceptions are bands I already like.
 
Arguably, you could say the same thing about blues, but every now and again comes along a musician that still manages to spin it off into something fresh and enticing enough for people to come back and listen to it. There doesn't need to be a lot of experimentation or newfound path of composing the music, necessarily. Hell, you could put on just about every other mainstream category of north american/western european music in the past half century and accuse it of being a dead end street under the same pretenses.

Whatever happened to "I am just not digging it"?
 
that's not a good enough answer for some people, who must prove you are wrong for not liking it.

Um no. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there's a difference between "meh", "I'm just not digging it", and "it's atmospheric fag music", the latter being a stereotypical douchebag metalhead response.
 
Arguably, you could say the same thing about blues, but every now and again comes along a musician that still manages to spin it off into something fresh and enticing enough for people to come back and listen to it. There doesn't need to be a lot of experimentation or newfound path of composing the music, necessarily. Hell, you could put on just about every other mainstream category of north american/western european music in the past half century and accuse it of being a dead end street under the same pretenses.

Whatever happened to "I am just not digging it"?

I'd say Ulver has gotten better with their evolution. Shadows of the Sun is a fantastic album and although I like all their stuff, that one is my favorite.

Also, metal for the most part is pretty one-dimensional when it comes to death, black, and thrash metal. The only genre that seems to keep things lively is doom and some stoner doom stuff...but that's all about experimentation. You wouldn't think so because there's only so much you can do with that style of music, but so many bands keep coming out with fresh and interesting material while thrash metal has been ripping itself off for the past 20 years.

And for the record, I WOULD say the same thing about blues...there's only so much you can do with a blues scale. It's downright boring. Every now and then someone comes along to impress people with finger acrobatics but ultimately they're not doing anything new. But it's blues...they don't need to do anything new. I like listening to all the old delta blues greats but that's about it. SRV can suck it. People who play in a bluesy way like Jerry Cantrell are much more interesting than just straight blues players.
 
Um no. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there's a difference between "meh", "I'm just not digging it", and "it's atmospheric fag music", the latter being a stereotypical douchebag metalhead response.
well i was speaking in general, not referring to replicated's post. he actually gave several reasons why he doesnt like it, but that still wasnt good enough for you.
 
well i was speaking in general, not referring to replicated's post. he actually gave several reasons why he doesnt like it, but that still wasnt good enough for you.

No he didn't. He said "DURRRR I like their old stuff better because it was heavier", and mentioned some bullshit about them trying not to sound heavy on purpose, which is retarded. They're a band who has always done exactly what they wanted...replicated is talking out his ass.

Alternative 4 and Judgement weren't heavy albums but were way more emotional and effective than Silent Enigma or Serenades, although I love those as well.

I mean, that may be his opinion and he's entitled to it, but it just proves he's a retard.
 
I'd say Ulver has gotten better with their evolution. Shadows of the Sun is a fantastic album and although I like all their stuff, that one is my favorite.

Also, metal for the most part is pretty one-dimensional when it comes to death, black, and thrash metal. The only genre that seems to keep things lively is doom and some stoner doom stuff...but that's all about experimentation. You wouldn't think so because there's only so much you can do with that style of music, but so many bands keep coming out with fresh and interesting material while thrash metal has been ripping itself off for the past 20 years.

And for the record, I WOULD say the same thing about blues...there's only so much you can do with a blues scale. It's downright boring. Every now and then someone comes along to impress people with finger acrobatics but ultimately they're not doing anything new. But it's blues...they don't need to do anything new. I like listening to all the old delta blues greats but that's about it. SRV can suck it. People who play in a bluesy way like Jerry Cantrell are much more interesting than just straight blues players.

As a die hard old school Ulver fan, I am truly afraid to listen to anything past Nattens Madrigal... But as far as new and different Black Metal is concerned, I think everyone can agree that Drudkh are doing a great job of putting a new spin on it.

And with blues, some would say that Wolfmother and Cage the Elephant are rewiring that old formula and there's some cool shit that still revolves around that genre like that.

And why does SRV have to suck it? Have you ever seen another musician do scuttle buttin' whilst smokin a pipe? That's one of the best things to come out of texas in the past 25 years (Besides Absu, of course):

 
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As a die hard old school Ulver fan, I am truly afraid to listen to anything past Nattens Madrigal... But as far as new and different Black Metal is concerned, I think everyone can agree that Drudkh are doing a great job of putting a new spin on it.

And with blues, some would say that Wolfmother and Cage the Elephant are rewiring that old formula and there's some cool shit that still revolves around that genre like that.

And why does SRV have to suck it? Have you ever seen another musician do scuttle buttin' whilst smokin a pipe? That's one of the best things to come out of texas in the past 25 years (Besides Absu, of course):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uEwJ-VXsTc

Not taking anything away from SRV...he was a great guitarist and musician and was very influential in the blues scene. I'm not saying he sucks by a long shot...just that I dislike that style of blues...SRV, Eric Johnson, etc.

As for Wolfmother, I believe Mike Patton said it best when he said:

 
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Yes, they're shit. But they also try to do something else with the retro-blues/rock thing they have going. Just an example... Mike Patton's the shit.
 
Yeah but Soulhat was doing it way better even back in '94.

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