New Animals As Leaders Album

If the band doesn't sell any records, then the label will dump them.
The band wants to be on the label... otherwise they wouldn't be on the label.
 
Definitely a few people here talking out their asses. If there's one thing the music industry never loses in spite of economic downturn, it's the uneducated, inexperienced idiots who spout bullshit on its behalf.

1) Not all record labels are evil. I've worked with some money hungry, shady bastards of labels and also amazingly legit and all-about-the-music record labels.
2) Just because almost all of us have downloaded albums illegally in the past, doesn't justify it. We learn from our mistakes and try not to repeat them. It's this "everyone does it so it must be okay" mentality that ends up breeding Nazis.
3) Art is never free. Art doesn't spontaneously appear. Good art takes years of perfecting one's craft and many weeks or months putting together a single piece of art. To say an album is free is to say it has no value, and anyone who says this is either naive or just selfishly fucked in the head. If a band chooses to release an album for free, it's their art, their time, their investment, and what needs to be emphasized here is THEIR CHOICE - not one YOU make for them just because it's easy to steal without them knowing. Just because a bank hands out free pens DOES NOT mean that all pens are now free forever. If some band decides to throw a free show, it does not grant you front row seats to The Rolling Stones, get it?

This is an issue of good ole fashioned theft being justified by technology that makes it easy and virtually untraceable. It's kind of like we're in the Wild West of digital music right now - there's no real way to enforce law just yet, so it's a rootin tootin free for all, which for some people, makes it justified to be an asshole outlaw stealing whatever they please.

Here's an example for you: You wouldn't steal a 70" Sony TV from Best Buy, and your argument would be because it's a physical object and you can't replace it, whereas digital music has unlimited copies. But what if you had a replicator like on Star Trek and just made a copy of the TV at your own expense, that would be okay then, right? I suppose the millions of dollars in research, design, and development that Sony invested to make that TV doesn't mean shit, does it? The only way Sony can afford to sell a 70" TV for only $2000 is because they count on selling thousands of them. It really comes down to your ability to understand the true value of something beyond the chimpanzee ability to read a price tag.

If you seriously think music should be free, then how can you justify charging anyone to record their music? You're just a middle man, not even the actual artist. If art is free, then instruments, paint, brushes, venues and equipment should all be free, too, right?

Read this if you think downloading a band's album is justified just because you bought a couple of their shirts:
http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just-business/bands-money-touring



+100000 amazing post. amazing.
 
does anyone know if Best Buy is carrying the record, I really want to pick it up and rock it out. I liked the last one quite a bit (bar the adequate but steril sounding production). Also Metal Machine for the drums? That wasnt even out to the general public yet was it? Are you sure about this, or are you just being funny?
 
Sorry this is old... but what do you mean by:

Would you rather...
A. waste 10 bucks, time you could have used doing some productive, risk getting in an accident, etc.

How can you risk getting in an accident from paying for music? That makes absolutely no sense to my eyes.
 
Sorry this is old... but what do you mean by:



How can you risk getting in an accident from paying for music? That makes absolutely no sense to my eyes.

I'm assuming he meant saving his lunch money to pay for more important things.... like his hospital bills due to people kicking his ass all the time. :)
 
Well, I'm not a teenager. I am 20 and I'm a college student.
And I do not see audio production or a musician as a realistic career choice especially the way things are going these days.
Sure it'd be awesome to be in that, what 1% of audio producers/musicians who actually are able to make a living off of what they do, but instead I'm going to pursue a Music Education or something of the sort degree as a back up plan just in case I won't be able to make money off my music.

I was a little stubborn trying to get my point across, I admit, and as stated I learned much from this thread alone but my band and myself feel that if our music is free then more people will take the time to download it. Lets face it everyone younger than me is a lazy asshole today, and no one wants to go out and buy CDs. Fuck, no one even wants to put 3 dollars in the bank so they can buy my EP on iTunes to support the band either.
 
Lets face it everyone younger than me is a lazy asshole today

And 5 year olders think the same about your "generation" and again the 5 years older and again and again...:Smug:



On topic:
I own the album for 2 weeks and am still a little bothered by some aspects.
I don't like the kick, eats much space in region where it shouldn't, imo.

Some leads have a very very "Vai'ish" feel for ME and I don't like that.



Anyways, I like the album.
 
Well, I'm not a teenager. I am 20 and I'm a college student.
And I do not see audio production or a musician as a realistic career choice especially the way things are going these days.
Sure it'd be awesome to be in that, what 1% of audio producers/musicians who actually are able to make a living off of what they do, but instead I'm going to pursue a Music Education or something of the sort degree as a back up plan just in case I won't be able to make money off my music.

I was a little stubborn trying to get my point across, I admit, and as stated I learned much from this thread alone but my band and myself feel that if our music is free then more people will take the time to download it. Lets face it everyone younger than me is a lazy asshole today, and no one wants to go out and buy CDs. Fuck, no one even wants to put 3 dollars in the bank so they can buy my EP on iTunes to support the band either.

Sorry but that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It still doesn't answer my question about how you could get in an accident from actually paying for music. And to be honest, your second career choice isn't that much more realistic than working in the production industry, unless you plan on becoming a private music teacher, but that still doesn't rake in that much.