that's cool then. yes there is a HUGE resemblance to "gothic", katatonia has admitted that they were basically a paradise lost clone band back then, except they took all the paradise lost elements to the EXTREME with "brave murder day", being basically "gothic" except really minimalistic repetitious and extreme. but as i keep having to say to mike about 5472 times a day, paradise lost's album "gothic" has NOTHING to do with what's called "GOTHIC METAL" today! it's a god damn death doom album (with some really inventive lead guitar work, orchestrals and female vocals) and nothing else. WHEN it came out, there wasn't a fucking genre called "GOTHIC METAL". fuck off.