new nickelback (dark horse)

[aramism]

well if i've ever heard a producer... this is it. mutt lange strikes again.

i'm not sure it really works for a band like this. randy staub however, does deliver again with nickelback. this is like a sick modern 80's mix. it's like def leppard on crack.

 

[roy22341]

I'm sure I'll get ripped apart for this but Nickelback is just a genius concept pulled off perfectly. They get radio play on soft rock/pop stations with some of their songs and other songs get played on rock radio. All their songs are painfully catchy and well written. I can't stand them but I also find myself singing along when its on the radio...I hate them for being so good at what they do.

 

[jangoux]

+1 to the above post. I really like nickelback, and they changed the formula a bit on this last album. Their drummer is a monster, btw!

 

[smy1]

Just bought it on Amazon without listening. Can't wait to get it.

 

[Metaltastic]

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Nickelback sucks monumental amounts of ass. Being impressed by their songwriting is like being impressed by the efficiency of the Nazis - it may be true, but it's so insidious and for such evil purposes (in the case of Nickelback, retardifying the music to appeal to the lowest common denominator of music listener for the sole purpose of making monumental amounts of money) that it should never be said!

But yeah, their production has always fucking ruled on anything I've had the misfortune of hearing.

 

[SocialNumb]

 

[aramism]

randy staub alone makes it worthwhile to purchase the records. some of the songs are really good too. though i see metaltastics points.


i'm calling it now, the return of arena rock. it makes sense. it's a proposed culture change by the powers that be. rock band, guitar hero, you tube shredders, all this this. people have more attention towards rock music. so they chose nickelback as a guinea pig and got mutt lange to make them sound like def leppard. i just have the suspicion that a lot of records are going to attempt to have that "big riff, big chorus" sound. watch for mr.big reunions and new (old style) bon jovi albms and definitely a warrant reunion lol.

this could either be a really good thing or a really band thing.

 

[JeffTD]

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Nickelback sucks monumental amounts of ass. Being impressed by their songwriting is like being impressed by the efficiency of the Nazis - it may be true, but it's so insidious and for such evil purposes (in the case of Nickelback, retardifying the music to appeal to the lowest common denominator of music listener for the sole purpose of making monumental amounts of money) that it should never be said!

But yeah, their production has always fucking ruled on anything I've had the misfortune of hearing.

Fuck that, why should we not give praise where praise is due? As bad as it is, it can't be denied that Hitler was, without a doubt, on of the most charismatic and effective leaders of all time. While he came in at a time that made it easier for him to do so, he still took over a democratic government, molded an entire country into an empire, bent it to his will, and unified a ridiculous amount of people into doing some of the most horrific things imaginable. Definitely not your average joe!

By the same principle, I don't why anyone would be ashamed to say that Nickelback doesn't write catchy songs. You seem to have some kind of irrational hate for all popular music... jealous of their success much?

 

[Metaltastic]

No, not jealous, I really don't crave that level of success at all, my goal in life really is to just be successful with my day job and have my music heard by a good amount of people who will hopefully find some meaning in it. My bitterness towards (a lot) of pop comes from the people I've known (directly and indirectly) whose goals always struck me as the equivalent of a scientist toying with rats (the masses that listen to this stuff) and experimenting with the right types of cheese (music) that will satisfy them the most, until their fickle fancies tire of it and its time to find another; it just all seems so...fake, and as I said above, insidious, in how disrespectful it is to music in general, placing its money-making value over anything else.

Of course I know there must be people out there who just like writing pop without the whole evil puppet-master mentality, and that this is hardly the first time I've gone on about this, so just ignore me - I've said what I wanted to say.

EDIT: And in particular, the main example that really gave me this sour impression was my former best friend/songwriting buddy who I wrote about at length in the "Non-metalheads around here?" thread.

 

[aramism]

Fuck that, why should we not give praise where praise is due? As bad as it is, it can't be denied that Hitler was, without a doubt, on of the most charismatic and effective leaders of all time. While he came in at a time that made it easier for him to do so, he still took over a democratic government, molded an entire country into an empire, bent it to his will, and unified a ridiculous amount of people into doing some of the most horrific things imaginable. Definitely not your average joe!

By the same principle, I don't why anyone would be ashamed to say that Nickelback doesn't write catchy songs. You seem to have some kind of irrational hate for all popular music... jealous of their success much?

i concur.

can't knock someone for earnin' a buck.

 

[More Than Ever]

I really enjoyed this album especially for the production. Outstanding.

 

[Glenn Fricker]

The production is top-notch, the songs are catchy, but is there anything that will stand the test of time? In the way that "Pinball Wizard" or even "Fade to Black" have stood the test of time?
Nickelback is very "safe" music. Catchy, yes, but memorable?


I'm not so sure. I really can't see people getting fired up over a Nickelback song 30 years from now. It's all so mediocre.

 

[Sloan]

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Nickelback sucks monumental amounts of ass. Being impressed by their songwriting is like being impressed by the efficiency of the Nazis - it may be true, but it's so insidious and for such evil purposes (in the case of Nickelback, retardifying the music to appeal to the lowest common denominator of music listener for the sole purpose of making monumental amounts of money) that it should never be said!

But yeah, their production has always fucking ruled on anything I've had the misfortune of hearing.

I completely had to SIG that shit.

 

[aramism]

i don't think anyone is comparing them to the who oz.


my whole sentiment on this issue, the reason i started this thread was that i just see a paradigm shift in the way rock is viewed as it has become a priority for a lot of labels because they need to have the always present hook and melody and all but they need something that is "rock band" or "guitar hero" worthy.


thus i fee like a lot of small clues like the last atreyu album etc. etc. are pointing towards a more arena rock type of sound.

 

[Chryst Krispies]

I've never listened to Nickelback but after this threads Nazi B.S and Staub shenanigans I guess I have to now.

I'm all for making a quick buck of off music though. I'd join Blink 182 in a HEARTBEAT if I could make some cake off of it.

 

[axeman720]

Its totally cool to not like a band because you dont dig their music and what they may or may not be about "behind the scenes" and to their fans, but cmon man, why so political and scientific about?

Peoples negative reaction to nickelback is so tiring and overthought its just like dude, i think you care more about hating them and what they are about then they care about making music!

The fact is, we NEED nickelbacks and hinders and all those wonderfully overproduced bands.

We need them to sell records, we need their surplus income, we need their songs, we need their production and we need their business.

It all trickels down to us, and like or not we can all learn something from records like this. We learn what can still sound great, what will sound great, what can sound totally gay and what is the limit of a nicely budgeted production.

Its like watching the new peter jackson or scorcese film. It sets the bar higher for all of us. Wheather you like the story line or not, their movies probably look a hell of a lot better than most!


Just my two cents, hope it makes sense.

That being said, the record sounds fucking amazing! And there is decent riffs on there.

 

[Metaltastic]

Yep, you're absolutely right Axeman, my bitterness stems from a purely personal struggle, and I guess it's about time I addressed it myself. But I don't think I'll ever like Nickelback

 

[aramism]

randy staub has the biggest mixing balls as far as how drum saturated his mixes are. garage inc. has some of the most pounding drums ever.

 

[The-Zeronaut]

The reason i like nickelback is cuz i FUCKING LOVE Chad Kroeger voice.

 

[BLOODROOT]

its really difficult for me to knock any band who can succeed in the music business. Like the music or not. Yes there a lot of bands I don't like but I try to give props to anyone who makes an effort to do what we do. There's really no need to be jealous of a band strictly because they are succeeding in a genre you don't like cept for rap. hehehe. Its become too easy to just hate someone for the mere fact that they are popular and are filthy rich. Like its a bad thing that someone is making a living off of playing music. heaven forbid someone make a living. I know people who absolutely will not buy cds. They illegally download everything and their reason "I don't want anyone getting rich off of me" or "I'm doing my part to bring down the music business" wtf ever. I enjoy listening to music other than metal 24/7. Nickleback or Hinder, as poppy as they are write catchy feel good, sing along songs. It's ok to have fun and feel good . You don't have to listen to gloom and doom all the time. Who cares what your friends think. My friend says listening to anything other than black metal is blasphemy and he wonders why he hates life. Listening to Nickleback is like fat chics and mopeds. They are fun to ride but don't let your friends catch you. I'd say If anything listen to Nickleback to enjoy the amazing productions. You probably wont out of the sure embarrassment and ridicule you'll receive once you realize you like them. And Hitler probably would have been the president of the world if he hadnt went off the deep end.