new nickelback (dark horse)

Hahahaha. Best analogy ever.

Nickelback is fucking terrible. Good production does not make good music, and it never will... I don't care how big the budget is or who is working on it. The production means jack shit to me if the music is this pathetic...
well the last time i checked the focus of this forum was on production and mixing. slagging and hating is best saved for b-mouth (disclaimer: i like b-mouth and read it everyday, but i hate reading the reader's comments and most often avoid doing so.)

if you just cannot bring yourself to listen to anything you don't like, not for even one minute, not even just to hear and possibly learn something that you could perhaps apply in your own work, well then you just painted yourself into a box that's rapidly becoming more and more inbred and downright pathetic.

"watch out every one, don't listen to that awesome Staub drum mix!... 'cuz the band's music is gay and it will make your pee pee shrink". :lol:

seriously though, at least 99% of us are here to talk production and mixing.... including the gear, people and even bands that are doing it everywhere from at home in their basements straight through to those at the top of the spectrum of budgets, gear, facilities, etc. This won't always coincide with bands that every casual visitor will think are "brutal" enough to be worthy of discussing.

it's great, and most common here, when music we love also has great production values and stellar mixing (whatever those things mean to the person considering them), but sometimes it won't align like that for everyone..... so it's not really all that interesting or informative to hear about how you hate this band or that band, and how lame or insipid you think they are..... i'd rather read about how good sounds were achieved.... even if it's just opinion.
 
yeah i also appreciate good production from the standpoint of a record producer. while the new record was clearly an attempt to be like the 20th anniversary of "hysteria" lol i like listening to something and picking out the arrangement finepoints, vocal harmonies, etc. etc. and of course how all this i presented via the mixer. but the whole process fascinates me. i love listening to a song and trying to work backwards saying "ok that little vocal part was probably the producers idea", or "this entire sections was probably put together by the producer." as much as i like saying, "that sounds like a mesa boogie", or "i hear the compressor on XYZ."
 
I just got the CD today and to me it's a HUGE disappointment songwriting-wise. Only 2 songs that I like and one of those is the last one (which isn't very typical for Nickelback).

It's funny that the CLA mix is easily the worst of all the mixes from 4 different mixers on the record (not that it is a BAD mix, just can't hold up to the other tracks.

To everyone who has the CD: did you have problems ripping it? My program (CDEx) can't rip any of the tracks and neither can Cubase ...
 
I remember putting a NB song on a mix CD i made back in 2000. i heard the song on the radio and liked it. "Leader of Men" was that track and it's still a goody because i can hear it in my head but haven't actually heard it in over 6 years.

:Smokin:
 
Walking home alone in the dark yesterday and listening to 'I'd come for you' on my iPod gave me a picture of Chad Kroeger on a white horse coming to pick me up and take me home! :lol:

I truly think their brilliant though. :notworthy
 
It's a business, Nickelback decided to go the "make our music as radio/generic as possible to sell a couple hundred thousand more records" route.

An odd business it is...Rap and "2000's Rock" (Singer that wants to be a model, simple bullshit chords, or a dude who grew up selling drugs and killing people with a beat machine and tells everyone that he has an escalade with a hot tub in it)

It just pisses me off for the fact that the bands we are accustomed to make a fraction of the money as the mentioned above, even bands i've heard on this forum that make little to no money blow some of those bands away. Just the way shit works I guess, im a metalhead so of course this is my bias opinion :]