NFL 2014

[crimsonfloyd]

If you watched the game it would be pretty obvious that if anything about the outcome was related to beating up happening somewhere, it was the Redskins doing the beating up.

Nope. Just like you dismissed the much more legitimate reasons for those other teams losing after playing the Cowboys, I'm gonna dismiss what Washington did. Congratulations Giants! You're the real winners here!

But you are free to yuck it, and two can play the gotcha game. You know what else doesn't get old? Knowing there is no Lombardi Trophy in Philly.

Sorry, that one really doesn't bother me. We have three titles from the pre-Super Bowl era, which are just as legit as Super Bowl titles. Just a different name. Some people are so uneducated about the history of the NFL that they will rave about the greatness of Jim Brown, Johnny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, etc. but then act as if the titles from their era don't count. IIRC you started following the Cowboys after 1995, in which case we've seen our teams win the exact same number of titles. Jimmy is the only one with bragging rights in this respect.

 

[Baroque]

Jimmy is the only one with bragging rights in this respect.

Hey now, I've been 49er fan since '88. I've seen them win 3 (and come within a short pass of winning another)

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Hey now, I've been 49er fan since '88. I've seen them win 3 (and come within a short pass of winning another)

Fair enough. I always think through an NFCE framework 1st, especially since their fans seem to have selective memory when it comes to NFL history (especially the Cowboy fans... but that's no surprise since it's the dumbest fanbase in the NFL).

 

[Krow]

Love when people bring up pre Super Bowl era wins. good times.

 

[Dak]

Nope. Just like you dismissed the much more legitimate reasons for those other teams losing after playing the Cowboys, I'm gonna dismiss what Washington did. Congratulations Giants! You're the real winners here!

I don't know how much more clear I could have been about not dismissing other reasons/not asserting the physicality theory was certain, but apparently you completely missed it anyway.

You started following the Cowboys after 1995, in which case we've seen our teams win the exact same number of titles. Jimmy is the only one with bragging rights in this respect.

Depends on what you mean by follow. I've liked the Cowboys since 1989. Can't go back farther than that because I can't remember being a toddler/preK very well.

Yes I know the Eagles have a few titles, but won their last the year the Cowboys joined the league, iirc. But don't complain about Cowboys fans living in the 90s if you want to live in the 40s.

 

[Draehl]

Falcons are killin me this year. Most are saying they need a defense. I think that's out of reach for the next few years. Need to focus on getting a better o-line and least be able to out-score teams. A more balanced team might do well to focus on defense, but with Matt Ryan, Julio, Roddy, Hester, and the 4 backs you've already got too many eggs in one basket, might as well protect it...

 

[crimsonfloyd]

I don't know how much more clear I could have been about not dismissing other reasons/not asserting the physicality theory was certain, but apparently you completely missed it anyway.

Dude, I'm just busting your balls. You sure are easy to bait.

Depends on what you mean by follow. I've liked the Cowboys since 1989. Can't go back farther than that because I can't remember being a toddler/preK very well.

Yes I know the Eagles have a few titles, but won their last the year the Cowboys joined the league, iirc. But don't complain about Cowboys fans living in the 90s if you want to live in the 40s.

Not living in the 40s. I'm just saying those titles count just as much as post-1966 titles do.

 

[Dak]

Dude, I'm just busting your balls. You sure are easy to bait.

Not living in the 40s. I'm just saying those titles count just as much as post-1966 titles do.

Trolling is easy when you have nothing else to compare behavior to.

With the way the NFL has been pushing to radically change the game lately, I'm wondering if they should reset the Super Bowls after 50.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Falcons are killin me this year. Most are saying they need a defense. I think that's out of reach for the next few years. Need to focus on getting a better o-line and least be able to out-score teams. A more balanced team might do well to focus on defense, but with Matt Ryan, Julio, Roddy, Hester, and the 4 backs you've already got too many eggs in one basket, might as well protect it...

They built their team dangerously and are paying for it. They over-invested in Jones and are thin in other areas as a result.

 

[Nephilim96]

With the way the NFL has been pushing to radically change the game lately, I'm wondering if they should reset the Super Bowls after 50.

How would they do that?

 

[Dak]

How would they do that?

You restart the count, with some sort of nod to a "modern era". At some point no one is going to care about "Super Bowl CXXLXXIIIXL". The UFC more or less ran into this. Preempt that with a shakeup. Take some chances along with it, maybe play around with the seeding and matchups. Maybe have two additional non-playoff qualifying teams chosen by lottery to play the former "bye week" teams or something as a new long-shot cinderella possibility. Etc etc. A lottery of otherwise non qualifying teams with entries based on number of wins would keep teams playing hard even after otherwise mathematically eliminated.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

They're already adding a 3rd Wild Card team. The lottery idea would never fly. I can't think of anything equivocal in any pro sports league, as it goes against everything pro sports is about.

 

[Dak]

They're already adding a 3rd Wild Card team. The lottery idea would never fly. I can't think of anything equivocal in any pro sports league, as it goes against everything pro sports is about.

It might not fly because tradition, but I think it might help combat the problem of teams lacking a reason to play once mathematically eliminated. If you changed that 3rd wild card team from pure record to one picked based on a lottery, but the lottery was influenced by total win count, this would solve two problems.

I object that it goes against everything pro sports is about. May as well claim the NBA lottery draft system is against everything pro sports is about. The lottery team should still have the longest odds, but they still managed to get in.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Who knew Witten could run like that?

 

[Dak]

How does Rivers go from having a career year to completely shitting the bed?

Murray's record streak finally ended, not too surprising with Weeden under center. Not sure what was up with Bryant today. Can't claim the crown when you get more yards through most of the game off a penalty than receiving.

Cardinals definitely look legit.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Eagles win by ten despite losing the turnover battle 4-1. All 21 of the Texans points came off turnovers. If the Eagles QBs would just play a little more conservative and stop making stupid decisions, this offense would take care of itself. Kelce is back and so is the Eagles rushing game. 190 total rushing yards, including this sexy drive:

(4:04) (Shotgun) 25-L.McCoy left end pushed ob at PHI 44 for 14 yards 1-10-PHI 44
(3:42) (Shotgun) 25-L.McCoy left tackle pushed ob at HOU 30 for 26 yards 1-10-HOU 30
(3:17) (Shotgun) 32-C.Polk right end to HOU 8 for 22 yards 1-8-HOU 8
(2:46) 32-C.Polk up the middle for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Yes, the coaching system is absurd and I don't see how you could deny that Romo's back plus age is a concern. Maybe nothing will happen, but nobody would be surprised if he went on IR. But heck, even if he misses a four game stretch, they're probably going 0-4 with Weeden at QB, regardless of opponent.

I was wrong about a lot of things regarding the Cowboys, but Romo's back wasn't one of them.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

It might not fly because tradition, but I think it might help combat the problem of teams lacking a reason to play once mathematically eliminated. If you changed that 3rd wild card team from pure record to one picked based on a lottery, but the lottery was influenced by total win count, this would solve two problems.

Look, nobody is gonna tune in to watch the 2-14 Jaguars get hammered by the 13-3 Broncos. The NFL would never even consider this.

Also, I don't think teams tanking really is an issue in the NFL. NFL contracts are not guaranteed and just about every coach is on a short leash-we've seen a number of coaches fired after one season-so it's a very rare occasion where a coaching staff can afford to tank.

I object that it goes against everything pro sports is about. May as well claim the NBA lottery draft system is against everything pro sports is about. The lottery team should still have the longest odds, but they still managed to get in.

A draft pick is a lot different than a playoff spot. Besides, the NBA draft is a totally different beast than the NFL draft, so you can't really compare. The NBA is a star driven league and with 12 man teams and 5 men on the court, one player can basically equate to multiple championships. In the NFL, even if you have Peyton Manning, it's a battle to build a championship team.

 

[Dak]

I was wrong about a lot of things regarding the Cowboys, but Romo's back wasn't one of them.

Well, although I acknowledge that a lot of the information surrounding injuries can contain some smoke/mirrors, the word is that this injury is unrelated to the prior injury, and that it isn't serious other than the level of pain that goes with it.

As far as Weeden goes, I don't know how a QB who has gotten that much prep time could be so out of sync with his receivers. Witten was the only one who appeared to be where he was supposed to/catching the ball when it was thrown his way.

Arizona has an excellent D, and not everyone is going to be able to bottle up Murray like they did, but Weeden-x receiver isn't scaring anyone. Dez isn't a threat if he can't/doesn't catch the ball.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Well, although I acknowledge that a lot of the information surrounding injuries can contain some smoke/mirrors, the word is that this injury is unrelated to the prior injury, and that it isn't serious other than the level of pain that goes with it.

From what I've seen, back problems tend to produce more back problems, but I'm not a doctor, so that's backed up by nothing scientific. At least you have the Jaguars next. If you had to play anyone with a bad backup QB, it might as well be them.

As far as Weeden goes, I don't know how a QB who has gotten that much prep time could be so out of sync with his receivers. Witten was the only one who appeared to be where he was supposed to/catching the ball when it was thrown his way.

I think Weeden is just that bad.

And yeah, Arizona is legit. I'm super impressed by how well their defense is playing, considering the players they've lost. Todd Bowles is doing a hell of a job with that unit.

 

[Nephilim96]

How bout dem Cardinals!

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