Non-Metal stuff (just a little chit-chat)

Fox Mulder

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Jan 22, 2009
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I really have a hard time perceiving what sounds good and what doesn't when it comes to mixing non-metal stuff. Sometimes I get away with it, sometimes I don't. Feel like breaking everything around me out of frustration. That's about it. Lol.
 
I hear you guys. It's not that I don't listen to anything else. I do, but in small amounts. And most of the stuff is filled up with super-saturated distortion anyways. So that's one problem. Another problem is - I've mixed a lot of metal but I've hardly worked on anything else :-) Experience issue, perhaps.
 
I'd say definitely make an effort to start listening to music in other genres - there are great artists in EVERY genre - pop, country, jazz, urban, you name it - the trick is to find them.

Ask some of your trusted music-nut friends (we all have them) for some recommendations and start listening.
 
Yeah definately sounds like a familiarity with other genres problem. I've mixed a fair amount of non metal stuff lately and it's a breath of fresh air. I find metal alot more difficult but the techniques are all the same, it's just easier to make things huge for lighter stuff.
 
I'd say definitely make an effort to start listening to music in other genres - there are great artists in EVERY genre - pop, country, jazz, urban, you name it - the trick is to find them.

Ask some of your trusted music-nut friends (we all have them) for some recommendations and start listening.

This.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Any recommendations for non-metal music?

Damien Rice - O (folk)
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP (rap)

Both are some of the albums I listen to the most, and aren't anything close to metal.
In my opinion, the production (and not only the mixing) on both of these albums is nothing less than stellar.
 
I love metal, but sometimes mixing other stuff can be quite healthy.

Mixing metal feels like making love to a very beautiful yet demanding woman. You've got to get it exactly right, or she might turn to another guy...
While mixing other stuff gives you some more freedom of creativity. And even if the music/girl ain't that stunning, the process (be it mixing or sex) may be even more enjoyable.

None metal-productions:
Toto - The Seventh One (as far away from metal as rock-music might get). Immense sound and a real "anti-loudness-war" product.
Marc Cohn - Marc Cohn (even less metal than Toto). Quite impressing how big a sole instrument can sound.

Considering the release dates:
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band and White Album. Without further words.
Yello - Stella. Interesting how much of these aesthetics have been set up back then.
Anything by ABBA, though I really get a sense of sickness from listening to the music, the productions are still amazing.
 
The trick that has worked well for me: Pick a song, listen VERY carefully to each of the element in that mix,i mean every little sound, every effect and take notes of how you beleive it is processed and so on. Using headphones also helps with some details. Lpass to see how the low end works, remove vocals ,try stuff...then try to right a similar song(or the exact same song if you are not into songwriting) based on these notes you made.
The closer you get the better, but you will definetly have learned a lot in the process..

Suggestions for practice: Prodigy-any of the last 3 albums (whoever gets that subbass wins)
Brian Tyler-The fast and the furious Tokyo Drift soundtrack(combines pretty much everything,great stuff)
Lady Gaga (for pop production)
Billy Ray Cyrus - Southern Rain (country-rock)
I hope this helps..
 
loving Esperanza Spalding's stuff if it'y about Jazz.
About pop production: +1 on the Lady Gaga thing, I even enjoy Kate Perry, but that's more
because of her boobs...
If it's about Rock (not metal) I really like Buckcherry and The Answer are very retrosounding
but modern at the same time.

Just listen carefully but listen carefully to anything.
Sometimes I just watch MTV for an hour or so, 90% of the stuff I hear just sucks musically
but productionwise, there are some cool things from time to time.