Now Van's open to a reunion
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So it's not just me, then? I've been sick the past few days and I thought that maybe I'm just a little loopy, what with not getting Stormo's Uranus pic earlier....but if Kevin doesn't understand it either then I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Maybe it's lost in translation?
Maybe it's lost in translation?
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And another thing, exactly what's wrong with musicians collaborating on Youtube? I think it's fantastic and a helluva lot better than forcing yourself to be homeless while trying to start a band. What's more, I've heard better songs from "Youtube jockeys" than any of the songs in either of Loomis' albums.
Orsonb comes to mind.
To me it sounds like I'm bashing on Loomis but that's not what I intend. All I'm saying is what Traxan said, that he is at his best when he works with other people. Some people work better alone, some work better in a group environment. Loomis seems like the latter.
Orsonb comes to mind.
To me it sounds like I'm bashing on Loomis but that's not what I intend. All I'm saying is what Traxan said, that he is at his best when he works with other people. Some people work better alone, some work better in a group environment. Loomis seems like the latter.
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Well, we all know that Guru's elevator doesn't quite reach the top floor, so a satisfactory resolution as to what this means or where it came from is probably not likely to happen.
~Lynn~
Bah...
Beleee dat.
I still will wait with some glimmer of hope for another NM album with some fresh blood where a mood like the darkness of DNB or the energy of POE sets the course of the recording. Instead of moments of aptitude and ability. *cough* wanking. Or something.
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Oh hai Lynn!
.... mmm bacon.
DW, stop having the same opinions as i do! Its just...WEIRD!
Uwauf. I found that so freaking dull, i just cant even. I was all "yawn..."
Thats funny! Youre a funny guy!Funny Guy said:
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I'd say Mastodon, Lamb of God and Shadows Fall are all making good livings and are earning the respect Nevermore SHOULD have gotten. So what happened?
The only commonality between the three is they all have highly regarded drummers. Brann, Chris and Jason are all highly respected, have gotten drum magazine covers and endorsements out their asses. And they are three of the best younger generation of drummers. Van? Oh don't get me started again.
Other than that you got 3 different styles, only Blythe comes close to WD in the frontman department (hell, Mastodon has no frontman, really) and none of them match Jeff for shred. So why are they doing so well?
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The screamy death metal genre is lucrative among the kiddies is why. I LIKE things like melodic death and I admit that.
Super Mahrio
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Because their sound is easier to market. Its "catchier" and appeals to Joe Shmoe a bit more than something like Nevermore. Its just the way things roll sometimes.
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Ha, yeah, my cousin who likes Meshuggah (I have like 10) asked to hear what I had on my headphones and got an earful of Narcosynthesis once. He didn't like it at ALL.
~Lynn~
Bah...
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~Lynn~
Bah...
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Yes and no. Shadows Fall, to me, is the weakest of the 3, an At the Gates clone with a vastly better drummer. LoG has, in the words of one friend, Phil Anselmo minus the heroin for a frontman. And Mastodon's music is intricate as all fucking hell. "The Last Baron" is just sick.
Besides, is Messhugah really more marketable than Nevermore?
Super Mahrio
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Now you do.
Mmmmm.....Yummies.
Now i definitely have a beef with Meshuggah!
Feast on, my friends! For the night is dark and full of turnips!
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Seeing as they appeal to a larger population, especially among people who think 200 extra notes a minute in a song makes it better, yes.
Dead Winter
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They're doing so well because Mastodon write genre-bending, epic music that has album of the year written all over each one. LoG and SF were part of the big NWOAHM scene in the early to mid 2000s, and LoG pretty much took over as the new Pantera. Both bands have fantastic musicians and wrote radio and MTV-friendly heavy metal that went along with the current trend. Mastodon is the new Pink Floyd of heavy metal...there aren't many people writing interesting music in the metal mainstream like Mastodon.
There will always be success for bands like Mastodon; as I said, only the extremely lucky or extremely talented will find success. Mastodon are the latter because they started in the underground. They are basically this generation's Metallica, while LoG and SF followed the metalcore/NWOAHM scene. I don't think LoG are metalcore but they definitely didn't shy away from the trend.
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At the same time, we should define what "success" is. I define success as being able to live off of your music, not how much money you can make on it. 99% of the time, in order to be financially successful, one must make lots of sacrifices both personal and creative.
