np

[HamburgerBoy]

Breakdowns came from hardcore though.

 

[CiG]

So?

Heavier forms of punk influenced death metal in many direct and indirect ways. Grindcore fo example.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Breakdowns came from hardcore though.

but hardcore isnt death metal, my little sister. Suffocation brought breakdowns(which is a HUGE part of BDM) into death metal. They are far more technical than Deicide(the comparison you asked for) and Frank Mullin is one of the originators of the guttural vox(which is used by just about every single BDM band) .. another one for your retarded Deicde comparison.

The fact that you would need someone to explain to you why they are a brutal/technical death metal band just showcases your inexperience of the subgenre of death metal. I'll just let you continue to embarrass yourself.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Breakdowns came from hardcore though.

Yup ... and from what i remember, grindcore was a huge influence to Suffocation's sound.

 

[ClichéUserName]

Also the early NYHC bands.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... yup

It's amazing that we need to spoon feed shit like this to HBB like every other week.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

So what differentiates deathcore and brutal death metal? Both feature breakdowns, guttural vocals, and often technicality.

And is thrash with breakdowns therefore brutal thrash metal?

 

[CiG]

Thrash with breakdowns is like thrashcore or crossover or something?

What imo separates deathcore from brutal death metal is that brutal death metal is actual (death) metal with breakdowns, whereas deathcore is metallic hardcore with death metal elements.

The fundamental difference is in which genre the band prioritizes/has as its foundation.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

@1:31 am i the only one who hears "we're so fart" here?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Thrash with breakdowns is like thrashcore or crossover or something?

What imo separates deathcore from brutal death metal is that brutal death metal is actual (death) metal with breakdowns, whereas deathcore is metallic hardcore with death metal elements.

The fundamental difference is in which genre the band prioritizes/has as its foundation.

Examples of deathcore bands that prioritize metallic hardcore pls

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

@CASSETTEISGOD if you're wondering why HBB is so clueless, the guy was strictly listening to kings x and shitty flower/power metal bands not too long ago. He didnt start listening to proper metal till a few years back.

he's like one of those annoying children who's just gonna keep going "but daddy, what about...", regardless of how wrong he is.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You've taught me so much, daddy, won't you teach me more? <3

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

 

[CiG]

First you show me a deathcore band that sounds like Death, Obituary, Pestilence, Asphyx, Bolt Thrower, Cannibal Corpse, Dismember, Entombed, etc.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

When you find me a deathcore band that sounds like this

 

[CiG]

Deathcore has too much grindcore influences to sound like mid-paced metalcore bands, but Deformity comes to mind. One of the first "deathcore" bands imo. When it actually sounded like metal, as opposed to grindcore + metalcore breakdowns + pig squeels etc that = deathcore we all know.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Where's the death metal in that? I hear a couple slammy riffs and a few verses like around 12:30, is that all it takes? I'm hearing a lot of thrash, a bit of hardcore, and almost no death metal.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

lol @ you still trying to imply that deathcore isnt or doesnt sound metal. "i dont like it so its not metal" that's not how it works

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

@HBB brutal death metal doesn't exist, and Suffocation are death/thrash. smh. Now lets move on.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

All I'm saying is death metal people are so fucking autistic. A billion meaningless sub-sub-genres. I mean, I even acknowledge that later 90s death metal was something different from early 90s death metal, but to put Suffocation in their own special snowflake category is silliness.