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you should also consider that you're not voting for one person, but for a bunch of puppet masters. bush was just a (bad) represantation figure for a bunch of thieves and madmen
 
I think Obama is no better than Bush or all the rest of them."same monkey in a different suit" I think they all have a lot invested($$)in war. I think the elections are a show/carnival. I think it's all pre-planed. No matter who "wins" we will go to war with Iran. Thats all that matters. The mission is go to war with both Iran & Pakistan with or without americans approval, but there sure trying to sell it! Putting on the big "Change Show". Obama has been saying over and over "we need to get out of Iraq and go into Iran". He lost my vote just like that. I don't believe in the whole terrorist lie. I think we need to look in the mirror. There we find the terrorist and WOMD. (Well not me personally I'm a vegan tree hugger) So I won't vote, it wouldn't count anyway (florida we can't count). http://rawstory.com/news/2007/FOX_Obama_related_to_Bush_Cheney_1017.html It's all in the family folks it's a big private club and your not invited. So go on be a patriot (blind submission) and vote and fight and pay to line there pockets. God bless the USA. yay! or as I call it USA Inc.

Disclaimer: The preceding rant in no way reflects the views of UMF and belong solely to SocialNumb Inc.

Right on. http://www.prisonplanet.com
 
How many of you are aware of the existence of these?

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THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm
 
This is what worries me. Obama was elected as state senator of Illinois and has done.... NOTHING. His name is not on a single bill. He's used his position as senator simply as a stepping stone towards the presidency. He OWES US BETTER as Illinois citizens.

That being said I won't be voting this election. Illinois is always 70% democrat anyway.
 
God I need to get laid. I can't believe I'm wasting my time reading/responding to this shit.

What seems to be the issue? Have my FACTs angered you?:p:lol: just kidding. I hope that wasn't directed at me, though.

Really I'm not opposed to Obama, his foreign policy seems to be solid and he was fine as an Illinois state senator. I just wonder why no-one else is complaining about the fact that he's given the U.S. senate a back seat to his campaign.
 
^^ Lol Genius

For all the non-US posters in this thread, you have to realize that we don't get to choose who RUNS for the presidency. But we do have to choose somebody when it comes time to vote...we're stuck with whoever is on the ballot. Sure, you can write in your own pick...good luck with that. The war isn't going to end anytime soon, no matter how much everyone, myself included, thinks it is fucking stupid and pointless. Everyone has to realize that politicians all over the US Govt have something invested into the defense companies that are supplying the US armed forces. Which means, the longer we are at war, the more money the people involved with supplies will be making...obviously. It's called war profiteering, and is suppose to be illegal, past officials have resigned after being accused of it, it's just not right.

For anyone curious to find out some of the facts behind this "war", I suggest you watch a couple of documentaries. "Zeitgeist" and "Iraq For Sale: The War Profiteers". Both of them have great coverage of what is actually going on behind the scenes, ulterior motives, and they both definitely explain why we won't see an end to this "war" anytime soon. The later of the two documentaries is a little better because it is based on facts, figures and documents that you easily look up and verify. The former is based around theories, but a lot of them are backed up by facts. But those two films are just the tip of the iceberg gentlemen, I wish I could get my friends on here to explain some of the more ridiculous aspects going on.

I personally can't stand our government and what it is doing to the people in this country. I hate how the US has to stick it's nose in other people's shit all the time and be world police. Our debt is absurd, and the greatest part is if we move to the Amero, then what will happen is we will be in debt to the fucking IMF because our dollar isn't worth as much as a Euro (the Amero will be equivalent in value to the Euro), so eventually the US will run out of dollars to exchange, and we'll have to BORROW Ameros from the IMF. So it looks like we will never be out of debt, never have a politician that is truly for the people (with the exception of Ron Paul, whos track record will clearly show that he's a true libertarian and would greatly help our nation) and always be more concerned with other country's shit instead of rebuilding our own.

Something funny: recently the US issued 490-something billion dollars worth of stimulus checks...each of which they taxed. So they created fake money to distribute in a very weak attempt to help our economy, but then they also taxed the fake money. Gotta love America...

~006
 
I saw those documentaries among others. If you believe them: then we already use "fake money" backed by nothing. A system of debt that works because of a T.V watching microwavable naive public and a government for sale. Where America is in debt to a private world bank owned by few. The Rothschild family on top of the pyramid.

I don't know how much of these films are true, but I do question: Can it be possible that an entire country (corporation) can be fooled? If in fact that is the case, then why is it that those who know don't do anything?
 
Most everything in Iraq For Sale is backed up by facts, figures and documents that you can obtain yourself. You can go and get a copy of the contracts for all of the private companies we are using over there. You can find documents telling you how a lot of contracts were given directly to certain companies, instead of being on a bid...which is how the government is suppose to conduct contracting like that. We do use fake money dude, lol...case in point look at the stimulus checks being taxed, which I just mentioned...

It can be possible, and nobody is doing anything because while people know about what is going on, there aren't ENOUGH people that know. And on top of that, there aren't enough people in the know that are willing to do anything about it. It's pathetic and depressing. I'm moving to Europe as soon as I can.

~006
 
By definition, international trade is the exchange of goods and services across national borders. Historically the currencies of nations involved were backed by precious metals (typically using some form of Gold Standard), which would cause a nation operating under a trade imbalance to send precious metals (economic goods in and of themselves) to correct any trade imbalances. In the current scheme of fiat money, the U.S. government is free to print all the money it wants. Consequentially, the government cannot technically go bankrupt as any debtor nation can just issue more money through a practice known as seigniorage.

We can print money freely, meaning we don't have to have anything to back it up, meaning it's technically worthless. It's a note with a facade of value when in reality there is none. Might as well be toilet paper. So, going by obvious facts, our ~9.5 trillion dollar debt should be nonexistent since we can just make money with nothing to back it and pay it off.

~006
 
I'm perfectly happy in the US, living my day-to-day life dreaming about gear, playing guitar, getting better at recording, playing video games, working towards graduating college, about to start a paid internship - call me self-centered, but I don't see how you, 006, as well as other US residents can want to leave so desperately. I love NYC and its surrounding area, and I don't ever plan on leaving!
 
What seems to be the issue? Have my FACTs angered you?:p:lol: just kidding. I hope that wasn't directed at me, though.

Really I'm not opposed to Obama, his foreign policy seems to be solid and he was fine as an Illinois state senator. I just wonder why no-one else is complaining about the fact that he's given the U.S. senate a back seat to his campaign.

LOL i agree with most of the opinions here. I'm just saying that Obama is a much better candidate than McCain for a number of reasons. Also of note: McCain is a better candidate than most of our recent presidents, so I'm happy either way.
 
I'm perfectly happy in the US, living my day-to-day life dreaming about gear, playing guitar, getting better at recording, playing video games, working towards graduating college, about to start a paid internship - call me self-centered, but I don't see how you, 006, as well as other US residents can want to leave so desperately. I love NYC and its surrounding area, and I don't ever plan on leaving!

Dude...thought I was one of the only ones.

Very well said.

I feel the same way, except I'm a Masshole.