Obama's Inauguration Speech

BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL PORCH MONKEYS, AMIRITE?!

No, I was more thinking of all the people on welfare and all those who want to be taken care of and not contribute to society. All those who cheat the system and try to get something for nothing. That's a large part of who voted for Obama. Or more correctly I guess I should say that all the people who have that mindset voted for Obama. Those were the ones who were home watching.
 
Wake up call: racism is not over. That we as a nation were able to elect a half black president does not mean that racism is not still a VERY serious issue throughout the country. So acknowledging this grand achievement in the aim toward equality of race is to say "yes, this is great, but we have a way to go." There is still a tremendous economic disparity between races that needs to be addressed, for instance. I would go on but I have to go watch the Daily Show now. Peace.

!Disclaimer! opinion follows:

We have come a long way though. The economic disparity between races is not so much a racial issue, but is just what you said: an economic issue. It's not that people are unwilling or object to helping the lower classes because they're of a different race. I firmly believe that in today's society, many Americans are less willing to help people of lower status regardless of their skin color or ethnicity (i.e. there are poor white families who suffer just as much as poor blacks, albeit fewer of them).

Now, this is not to say that racism didn't cause this disparity. The reason that so many blacks are of a lower social class is specifically because of years of racism and oppression. When slavery was abolished the blacks were left with nothing. They thought they were getting forty acres and a mule (wouldn't that have been grand); instead, many of them went back to work as servants because they had nothing else. This put them on a road to inevitable misfortune and poverty.

The problem today (that I, frankly, can sympathize with) is that many whites (of higher social classes, mind you) don't feel responsible for what their ancestors did. And they shouldn't feel responsible; they didn't do anything. Regardless of whether or not a certain percentage of whites in this country still harbor a bias (subconcious or not) against blacks, I still believe that today the issue is far more economically rooted than racially. If (hypothetically) the government could find a way to substantially fund poor black families, I highly doubt that the white elite would say "Don't give them money; they're black." As long as it's not their money, I think people just don't care.

I would summarize all this by quoting and correcting Kanye West, who said "George Bush hates black people." That's just not true. He hates poor people.
 
Indeed, we inherited the privilege of ignorance to a system that perpetuates poverty, not because of prejudice, but the cold structure of the system itself.

The biggest factor perpetuating minority poverty is education. It's a fact that urban public schools are more crowded and receive less funding than suburban and private schools. Since minorities were massed in the cities before the modern education system developed, the poor quality of education limits their opportunities to break away from urban squalor and achieve some semblance of the American Dream.
 
Einherjar: Of course I agree with you, but there also is still the factor of racism involved that is adding a further burden upon poor minority families which poor white families are not subject to. Poor minority women are, of course, even worse off than poor minority men. And poor atheist lesbian minority women might as well just shit the bed and lie in it.
 
Einherjar: Of course I agree with you, but there also is still the factor of racism involved that is adding a further burden upon poor minority families which poor white families are not subject to. Poor minority women are, of course, even worse off than poor minority men. And poor atheist lesbian minority women might as well just shit the bed and lie in it.

Absolutely. I wasn't attempting an argument, I was just trying to clarify.
 
Some bird (black) in an interview whose son was killed about 8 years ago by thugs in London (I think) was for some reason in Washington stating her opinion on the Obama presidency (why her?!?). In which she hoped that the UK would soon have a black Prime Minister. I mean what the flying fuck. Its blacks who put so much emphasis on race, than most of us whites. Considering there are hardly any blacks in UK politics, and again a much less percentage in the UK why should one take over the country. Bizarre.

edit: Then again a blind, 1 legged, no armed, deaf, 5 year old my pals would probably run the country better than fucking Blair and Brown did/does.
 
FNM makes a point. I don't really hear any other race talk about discrimination so much than black people. You never hear Asians talk about persecution, etc
 
Exactly. Asians, and other races just fucking get on with life, and work, instead of sitting around trying to leech off the Government because 200 years ago your people were slaves, and you feel you need reparations. Urgh.
 
They've already taken over America with all their brainwashing manga and their advanced computer technology and their imported teas. They only let it happen to throw open the gates for the takeover. If you tried to persecute them now you would face karate the likes of which whitey has never seen.
 
watched it on youtube. it was pretty good... realistic yet hopeful, humble yet confident, and it had some cute metaphors...

but did it have an epic one-liner that it will be remembered by for all time? i dunno...
 
We want to extend a hand, if they would only unclench their fist...or something like that. Very good line.

That and "your people will judge you by what you can build, not what you can destroy".

Both very nice quotes.

What does everyone think about USA Today's comment that his speech wasn't "memorable" like JFK's or Lincoln's? My roommate suggests that he really wasn't trying to give a "speech for the ages," but rather wanted to focus more on the current state of things. I think that's true, but I still think it was a memorable speech.
 
Yeah, I mean, the Asians WERE persecuted during WWII (mainly the Japanese-Americans), but you don't hear them whining about it anymore
That event doesn't come close to the scope of slavery, Jim Crow laws, and redlining which I highly suggest everyone familiarize themselves with. It's probably the prime factor for black poverty, even more than education perhaps. Property ownership is wealth. Wealth is usually a result of generations of work and good fortune. Blacks have had an exceptionally difficult path in this regard.

Comparing Asians to Blacks is ridiculous in terms of discrimination. A significant portion of Asians in the country moved here after WWII anyway. Also, people in other countries, and even this one, should not be telling blacks to shut up until they have all the facts. I think any of you would still be angry too.
 
Since this turned to a racism discussion, I'm thinking of spending the next summer with my uncle in North Carolina but a couple of my friends told me I should not go because of my "Middle Eastern looks", is it really that bad in NC? I thought that racism doesn't exist in America anymore.
 
Rascism, like competition over space and to reproduce is an ingrained charcteristic of the living animal.
People will always observe and judge. The only way to stop the plague of the 'isms' is to gorge peoples eyes out at birth. But even then the speech and smell and possible behaviour? Too bold? observed, would give them away. And discrimination would rear it's ugly but natural head.
 
Since this turned to a racism discussion, I'm thinking of spending the next summer with my uncle in North Carolina but a couple of my friends told me I should not go because of my "Middle Eastern looks", is it really that bad in NC? I thought that racism doesn't exist in America anymore.
You will be okay in a mid-to-large city. Rural areas can be iffy. I wouldn't worry about it.