Rogue Amber Ale
Rogue Dead Guy
Liked those twoNothing very snobby, but it's shaping up to be a good week or two:
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I'm currently drinking the Rochefort 10![]()
Jesus Russell, did you rob a Fuller's distro?![]()
You sir, rule.
After drinking a lot of American ales, I honestly have a hard time enjoying most English ales...
I think there's a lot of variation, especially in the smaller breweries - having traveled and drunk ale throughout the country on fieldwork I've found local ales tend to be either really very good, or absolute shit. I think the same applies to bigger breweries too, there's not all that much middle ground. Plus they're something of an acquired taste to begin with, I can't deny it![]()
I'm saying that the variation isn't very much, and there isn't an English Ale that just blows your balls off. It's just that they are all solid, with minute changes in their tastes. There is no real complexity in the beers; if you take Sierra Nevada Harvest Ale and put up against an English Pale ale, the English ones just get annihilated because of the lack of flavours.
I'd maintain there is variation - for example, just to choose two I've had in the last couple of days - put Fullers ESB up against Badger Golden Glory. Both ales, one fruity, and sweet to the other which is really hoppy and smoked. I'd agree some ales, especially pale ales do lack complexity, but I don't think that stands for all of them, as there are quite a few ones with a lot of character out there, IMO.
Next time I'm at Borough Market I'll pop in and buy a Sierra Nevada Harvest Ale, if you guys have it, so I can make the comparison too![]()
Ahh, that's not the variation I mean. I'm talking strictly about and English ales of the same style. Pretty much all English bitters taste the same. Pretty much all English Pale Ales taste the same. Also, the English beers drinking are so worried about their alcohol content. If a beer is over 5.5% alcohol, they get uneasy; this does hurt the innovation of the breweries.
There is a few exception, like Fullers ESB and Harvey's Best bitter are quite good with a slight bit of complexity; however, this is few are far between.
Take for example: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Anchor's Liberty Ale, Flying Dog's Classic Doggy Classic Pale Ale, and Terrapins' Rye Pale Ale are all American Pale Ales and vary quite a bit.