OK, Here is a question lets be civil. Should we destroy Iran??

[T_man357]

Hatred, Do you feel it???
That feeling of deja vu?? This is starting to feel like we've been in this exact same place before...(And I haven't even got involved yet!!)

Newsflash...I never said it wasn't.

I am saying to blindly let ELECTED officials do what they please is rather stupid.

I also never said that I would want to live anywhere other than America.

 

[MyHatred]

Hatred, Do you feel it???
That feeling of deja vu?? This is starting to feel like we've been in this exact same place before...(And I haven't even got involved yet!!)

 

[Jurched]

In this link two points are made: firstly that Iran believes Israel was behind getting the cartoons of Muhammed printed, deliberately to inflame Muslims (no doubt with the additional help of agent provocateurs posing as angry Muslims and handing out placards).

Why would Iran think Israel would want to do this? In order to drum up support for a war on Iran.

The second point that was made was that they felt an appropriate response to these Israeli commissioned cartoons would be to offend what Iranians hold to be the religion of the West. Christianity? No way! The "holocaust", what else?!

And true to form, the American reaction to the thought of such blasphemous cartoons being drawn is to call for the destruction of Iran!
How is that any less of a gross over reaction than Muslims calling for the destruction of Denmark?

Well, I think the world is being slightly suckered here. Thus far, only British tabloids have been reporting on a grand plan for Iran's destruction. No American information outlet has done anything except report the British point of view.

I don't doubt the Armed Forces Chief of Staff has had Iranian invasion plans since 1980, following the start of the Iran-Iraq War. I'm sure they're updated annually, and today must take into account our strategic encirclement of Iran on all sides:

200,000 troops in Iraq, in the vicinity of the bloody battlefields of the 1980s
75,000 troops in Afghanistan, the opposite front
airbases in Uzbekistan and unused leased bases in Turkmenistan
Troops on the ground in Georgia and rights in Azerbaidjan
NATO ally Turkey, though their involvement is unlikely
Persian gulf airbases in Qatar, Bahrain
Long range airbases in the Indian Ocean

No wonder those Iranians are paranoid.

Jurched

 

[derek]

No offense, dude...but they loved the novelty of banging an American, your funny accent and the remote possibility of being packed up and brought back to world's greatest nation.

 

[Jurched]

so who trained bin laden?
Nobody. He's a financier, not a soldier.

and why the day <<that changed your world>> not even one jewish
was on his job?
When the fuck are they ever?

are the media telling you this kind of things?
They talk about Dick Cheney's hunting clothing, and that's about it.

in second thought who are you and me to know whats really going on?
I.M. Weasel, U.R. Baboon

and by the way imnot patriot
Why not? Centuries of brutal occupation by Turks and Venetians got you down?

fuck greece and all the countries of all the world
Yes, I second that motion. FUCK Greece.

and fuck you too
Perhaps later.

citizen of a bastard nation.(overkill kick ass)
We have our founding fathers at least. Greece's founding fathers are centuries of marauding Turks, raping anything that moved.

i want somehow your goverment to choose you for your next war
Why? Would you want me to destroy my country's enemies? I thought you hate that.

and then come and find me and tell me the same things.
With or without my M-16 automatic rifle?

from your couch and your bed everything is simple
Or in this case, a swivel chair.

yeah kill'em.
Yah, now you're talking! Kill em all!

do you understand that your country is always on war?
Yeah, why do these bastards keep asking for it?

what is war? bombing other countries and killing people to other countries?
Lately. Its more popular than putting troops on the ground who might be hurt.

NO!!!
Why ask if you had an answer.

someday the bombs will blow to your country also.
Then there will be more war. Is that what you want?

why such a big deal about the world trade center?
I dunno. It was a nice day out, as I remember.

you fucking bombed entire Bagdat.
If we'd done that, there'd be nothing left but ashes.

Thousands years old town.
Whose burning ruins were trampled by Alexander Makedon and hundreds of other conquerors.

you spread death to many countries also.
No, just commercialism.

the truth its that its our fault.
Now you're making sense!

we the european bastards went to America and built this country
Not the Greeks. All they've built are highway Diners.

and then Africa Asia and the rest.
Yeah, splendid job there.

P.S.- when the fuck did you liberated Greece?
When your grandparents were scraping mosses off the burned olive trees searching for anything to eat in order to keep from dying a painful death in 1945, our ships landed with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of foodstuffs, rescuing the ashes of Greece from four years of German occupation. Finally, your grandparents were strong enough to conceive your parents, and finally, your fat parents were able to somehow remember to conceive your sorry spoiled ass.

ecxept buffalo bill they learn you crap like this?
Yeeahhhh.... somthing like that.

Jurched

 

[TheAssMaster]

NorseMaiden, erm, bless you love, this has nothing to do with the cartoons, this is to do with the fact the Iranians are developing a nuclear capability, despite being told by the rest of the world (including the Chinks and Russians) that we are not happy and to stop immediately. Now we've asked nicely, and they have to face up to the fact that the next step is to get a serious kicking, because asking nicely is getting us nowhere.
Given the almighty fuckup in Iraq, with soldiers being targetted daily by terrorists, thanks to politicians and hand-wringers too interested in human rights and how things look on TV, we can't go in half-hearted to Iran. They are going to have to get a decisive, mega kick in the bollocks, or the next thing is that Syria are going to start being cunty, or Yemen, or whoever. They need to know that we've tried to give them a chance to play with us civilised folks, and if they can't do that, then we are going to fuck them.
Now, you run along and make me a nice cup of tea and don't you worry your pretty little head about stuff like this, there's a good girl.

Which brings me to our Greek chum. Listen Stavros, large Doner, plenty of salad, loadsa chilli sauce, and a bag of chips please. When were you liberated, you ask. How about in 1944/45 when Adolf and co were squeezing your balls? Remember? Ask Stavros Senior, he'll fill you in. Better still, watch "The Guns of Navarone" - we're the ones helping to free the Greeks. Now, sit down and calm down, we don't take kindly to people with bushy moustaches who jump up and down and jabber about how cunty the Evil Western powers are.
Incidentally, don't say you hate your country, this is at the root of this thread - national pride and backing your country to the hilt, no matter it's faults. We love our countries, despite all the bad things, and we'd rather live in freedom, able to post shit like this without fear, than live in some flea bitten shithole ruled by inbred religious fuckwits who tolerate no dissent. However, because life isn't nice and neat, we have to accept that we are going to have to be cunty to some people to preserve our way of life. They have had the choice to do it our way. If they don't want to, fuck them.
(Incidentally, "Greek" is my favourite way to have sex, hmmmmmm Erm, chicks only I'm afraid, sorry! )

Right, finally, before you all get fucked off with my outpourings, I'd like to stick up for my chum the Sweaty. (That's a "sweaty sock" to you Yanks, or rather, a "Jock" - which is a Scot, not an athlete, to us Brits)
Indeed, the Scots and the English aren't always the best of mates, but yet again in the spirit of backing our Western way of life, we have always stood shoulder to shoulder. Whoever said that the Scots hadn't won many wars is dead wrong. The appearance of the "men in skirts", playing them fucking bagpipes, was often more than enough for ragheads the world over, before they even got their Lee Enfields out - they'd be terrified. The Scots are an unwashed horde of incoherent alcoholic savages - and we love them for it. (They constantly whinge about us English, but they'd rather have us than the Krauts, I'm sure)

So, in this thread, we have established something that politicans the world over can't seem to grasp - that life isn't perfect, and never will be. You can't be nice to everyone all the time, or even some of the people some of the time. If it falls into line with our way of thinking, super, the ragheads are welcome to play with our ball. If not, they'll get flattened, and people like me won't lose a wink of sleep knowing that my way of life is that little bit safer with their passing.

 

[sknight]

Grab the guns boys, were going to Iran!!!!

Seriously though, they just hired a mechanic at work who used to live in Iran, The story he told me was, they came to his house one day and said "you are now in the army", now this was when they were at war with Iraq when Saddam was using chemical warfare. he escaped and fled to pakistan, from there he came to america, hes legal ( they checked him out hard before they hired him).

He said 75% of the people in Iran hate america, they hate us so much, they would fight for the privlage to kill an american. 20% would rather use western technology, but belive that the western world is evil. 5% of the people hate their goverment.

He told me straight up that if Iran ever get "the bomb" they are going to make Isreal glow in the dark.

Fuckin scary.

This is the quintessential post here. In theory, being in Iraq would have allowed us to springboard into Iran, but it has been show that this is certainly not the case.

The case we have at hand is that we made one of history's biggest fuck ups by letting go of the middle east as colonies or protectorates of the US and Britain. They came back more powerful to fuck us, yet we need each other.

The world's most preeminant danger right now is their nuclear initiative. I support the rights of countries to have nuclear initiatives for energy usage, but it has to be proven they will be responsible. Nuclear initiatives should be seen as a private citizen in the US trying to get a concealed weapons license. The background has to be thoroughly searched for YEARS so you can prove yourself and get the permission.

 

[T_man357]

I'm telling ya Jurch....I never get bored reading your posts!!! You should post a blog...Hell I'd read it..

so who trained bin laden?
Nobody. He's a financier, not a soldier.

and why the day <<that changed your world>> not even one jewish
was on his job?
When the fuck are they ever?

are the media telling you this kind of things?
They talk about Dick Cheney's hunting clothing, and that's about it.

in second thought who are you and me to know whats really going on?
I.M. Weasel, U.R. Baboon

and by the way imnot patriot
Why not? Centuries of brutal occupation by Turks and Venetians got you down?

fuck greece and all the countries of all the world
Yes, I second that motion. FUCK Greece.

and fuck you too
Perhaps later.

citizen of a bastard nation.(overkill kick ass)
We have our founding fathers at least. Greece's founding fathers are centuries of marauding Turks, raping anything that moved.

i want somehow your goverment to choose you for your next war
Why? Would you want me to destroy my country's enemies? I thought you hate that.

and then come and find me and tell me the same things.
With or without my M-16 automatic rifle?

from your couch and your bed everything is simple
Or in this case, a swivel chair.

yeah kill'em.
Yah, now you're talking! Kill em all!

do you understand that your country is always on war?
Yeah, why do these bastards keep asking for it?

what is war? bombing other countries and killing people to other countries?
Lately. Its more popular than putting troops on the ground who might be hurt.

NO!!!
Why ask if you had an answer.

someday the bombs will blow to your country also.
Then there will be more war. Is that what you want?

why such a big deal about the world trade center?
I dunno. It was a nice day out, as I remember.

you fucking bombed entire Bagdat.
If we'd done that, there'd be nothing left but ashes.

Thousands years old town.
Whose burning ruins were trampled by Alexander Makedon and hundreds of other conquerors.

you spread death to many countries also.
No, just commercialism.

the truth its that its our fault.
Now you're making sense!

we the european bastards went to America and built this country
Not the Greeks. All they've built are highway Diners.

and then Africa Asia and the rest.
Yeah, splendid job there.

P.S.- when the fuck did you liberated Greece?
When your grandparents were scraping mosses off the burned olive trees searching for anything to eat in order to keep from dying a painful death in 1945, our ships landed with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of foodstuffs, rescuing the ashes of Greece from four years of German occupation. Finally, your grandparents were strong enough to conceive your parents, and finally, your fat parents were able to somehow remember to conceive your sorry spoiled ass.

ecxept buffalo bill they learn you crap like this?
Yeeahhhh.... somthing like that.

Jurched

 

[MyHatred]

I'm telling ya Jurch....I never get bored reading your posts!!! You should post a blog...Hell I'd read it..

Me too...

 

[derek]

dont always agree...but damn fine reading.

so...me too.

 

[sknight]

Can't forget the Greeks who hate the US so much, perhaps as much as Iran.

 

[Hawng]

Hatred, Do you feel it???
That feeling of deja vu?? This is starting to feel like we've been in this exact same place before...(And I haven't even got involved yet!!)

 

[MyHatred]

and one to grow on

 

[Hawng]

i cant believe you buy this shit years and years.
open your eyes
have you travelled to Iran?
what do you know about them?
what your media says?
what ?they have nuclear weapons?
and who hasnt?
and so what do you want?
that nobody will have weapons except you?
you think youre clever?
you fight terrorism?
you are terrorism
dont you understand?
liberators my ass.
one history full of killings and bombing
from indians to these guys.
and suddenly two planes crushed and something happened
duh!! why? whats new?
of course for you its new to see terror in your land.
ask the others that lived in this hell for life.
ask indians , ask vietnam , ask somalia, ask yugoslavia , ask iraq.ask afganistan , ask japan.
did anybody called you to free them?
and yeah its god damn sure your troops are not down there for freedom.
only for power money and control this planet.
you fucking soft-core bitches!!!!
sorry but its the truth. i dont say saddam was a saint but who is?
you? youre making me laugh hahahahahahaha
dont mean to offend you its democracy we re just talking
trying to get the best out of you.
killings never solve things.
violence brings violence
open your eyes the entire world is laughing with your goverment
arent you ashame?
if you support war prepare yourselves dying from it
because things will change in your neighborhood.
and Billy, changing neighborhood will not solve the problem next time it wont be some little airplanes. continue supporting

And what is your great solution to the nuclear threat Iran poses?

 

[Bleearg]

After washing his filthy hands and fetching me a gyro with no tomatoes, efkarpos would easily accomodate all the warheads "Greek style".
efkarpos our savior!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[schenkadere]

Newsflash...I never said it wasn't.

I am saying to blindly let ELECTED officials do what they please is rather stupid.

I also never said that I would want to live anywhere other than America.

Chill, dude...that wasn't directed specifically at you.

I agree 100 percent!

The corruption is obvious...and on top of it, now we have our Vice President, who is corrupt as they come, shooting people. I love this country!

 

[ZeeZooZum]

P.S.- when the fuck did you liberated Greece?
When your grandparents were scraping mosses off the burned olive trees searching for anything to eat in order to keep from dying a painful death in 1945, our ships landed with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of foodstuffs, rescuing the ashes of Greece from four years of German occupation. Finally, your grandparents were strong enough to conceive your parents, and finally, your fat parents were able to somehow remember to conceive your sorry spoiled ass.

Jurched

Funny that during the Greek Civil War that followed, the Americans were happy to support the fascist/ royalist government that resulted in the death of many Greeks. Your not likely to find many Greeks (except the far right variety) happy about that.

 

[efkarpos]

ok now go watch the guns of navarone one more time
and all the propaganda documentaries they sell you
and make opinions from the movies you see.
you are doing the same thing that Alexander the great did
many years ago. it is tested and its wrong.
iran its way way far from you
dont tell me you care about the poor citizens.
first care about your country , about the ghettos you have,
having the black people slaves , the gun control that is killing
your people-like dimebag
we saw your careness in Louisiana
first save yourselfs and then we can talk about saving the world.
cmon you truly believe that a drunk ,retarted cokain addict
skull and bones member wanna save the world?
its like - you want to free tibet because that tibets got it bad
fuck you fuck tibet fuck your fans move there if you feel so sad!!!

 

[SueNC]

In this link two points are made: firstly that Iran believes Israel was behind getting the cartoons of Muhammed printed, deliberately to inflame Muslims (no doubt with the additional help of agent provocateurs posing as angry Muslims and handing out placards).

Why would Iran think Israel would want to do this? In order to drum up support for a war on Iran.

The second point that was made was that they felt an appropriate response to these Israeli commissioned cartoons would be to offend what Iranians hold to be the religion of the West. Christianity? No way! The "holocaust", what else?!

And true to form, the American reaction to the thought of such blasphemous cartoons being drawn is to call for the destruction of Iran!
How is that any less of a gross over reaction than Muslims calling for the destruction of Denmark?

um... America hasnt called for the destruction of Iran. this was one person posing a rhetorical question on a message board.

thanks for playing, though. it's always heart-warming to see the mentally challenged getting in there and mixing it up with normal folks.

 

[Norsemaiden]

I don't think any country but Israel needs to fear Iran having a nuke. That is where they want to drop it, if anywhere. We're always pulling Israel's chestnuts out of the fire. We are suckered.
(I have heard lots of Americans calling for the destruction of Iran. I'm sorry previous poster, but you can't insult me that easily. It says more about your own mentality!)