Opeth Street Team Promotion

System of A Down are popular because they make neurotic/random/weird music that appeals to all the goth kids who strive to be 'uniquer' than everyone else


Plus they suck asshole and therefore pass the MTV admittance test to get into moderate rotation
 
Décadent said:
Do you realize how popular Opeth are? Do you realize for the style of music they're playing, they're about 10,000 times more popular than any other band? I mean, look back at my interview getting Blabbermouthed... look at some of the comments left by some of the locals. Do you realy want more of these people listening to Opeth?

"Never liked this pompous melodic metal. Too flowery and repetative for my tastes. Lamb of god wipes thier ass with sissy opeth."

The people that a street team campaign targets are THESE PEOPLE. People who hang out in front of big chain stores and discuss the latest Kerrang opinions.

I've run out of juice.
Yup.

Opeth doesn't need a street team, they're popular the way it is, and that fan base is growing a lot faster then some people think. I joined this forum in 2001 and there weren't half as many people here. Opeth aren't underground, and they are already successful.
 
Décadent said:
Do you realize how popular Opeth are? Do you realize for the style of music they're playing, they're about 10,000 times more popular than any other band? I mean, look back at my interview getting Blabbermouthed... look at some of the comments left by some of the locals. Do you realy want more of these people listening to Opeth?

"Never liked this pompous melodic metal. Too flowery and repetative for my tastes. Lamb of god wipes thier ass with sissy opeth."

The people that a street team campaign targets are THESE PEOPLE. People who hang out in front of big chain stores and discuss the latest Kerrang opinions.

I've run out of juice.
I have not seen a band so universally praised as Opeth. Their reviews are always close to 5 stars all over the web.

I'd want Opeth out there, but it's up to them. There is a bit of cheesiness in street teams, however. You only end up getting a small turnover of "recruits" to the band anyway, especially considering how weird Opeth is.

The current word of mouth is where it's at. That's how I heard of them and I'm sure many of you have heard of them this way too. It seems to be very strong for Opeth. Back in the 80's, Artillery broke worldwide with their demos and word of mouth. No street teams.

SOAD does suck. "Let me put some weird sounds together in a radio single length song and let people call me a genius. And because we're so weird sounding, the fans will think we have creative control of our music, despite the millions in recording and promotion our record company pays out to get us out there."
 
Décadent said:
The people that a street team campaign targets are THESE PEOPLE. People who hang out in front of big chain stores and discuss the latest Kerrang opinions.
ahahahaha! thats awesome!
where can i read some of those comments on your interview? they sound amusing.

....as for system of a turd: i actually bought an album a few years ago and after listening, i immediately threw it out the window. look, i dont fucking care if youre from armenia. shut up!
 
Décadent said:
Do you realize how popular Opeth are? Do you realize for the style of music they're playing, they're about 10,000 times more popular than any other band? I mean, look back at my interview getting Blabbermouthed... look at some of the comments left by some of the locals. Do you realy want more of these people listening to Opeth?

"Never liked this pompous melodic metal. Too flowery and repetative for my tastes. Lamb of god wipes thier ass with sissy opeth."

The people that a street team campaign targets are THESE PEOPLE. People who hang out in front of big chain stores and discuss the latest Kerrang opinions.

I've run out of juice.


its true, they are pretty popular...but does that explain their album sales? no...not even a gold album in the u.s....what exactly is your def. of popular? they are popular on an underground level...more people need to hear this music. non-metal fans especially (which is most people in this world). i think that opeth is a band where genre does not matter. the power of their music defies the word genre. death metal is their genre....its the label put on them that says double bass, growling vocals...noise, noise, noise....its too bad that people listen to that and not the music. this is where more personal promotion is useful. i've converted a classical listener into a fucking opeth addict because listened to the music and not the death metal. shit, my mom listens to bryan adams...her favorite song right now is by opeth. is it off of damnation? no...its fucking masters apprentices!!!?

in my opinion, opeth is not popular enough...not for them...but for all music listners...labels, lables, lables, its a shame that they are taken so seriously...because they divide the world of music. breaking through them is true way to appreciate music...thats why opeth is not very popular, besides in the underground metal scene...because thats what they are to the music world...fucking underground metal..."is that even music?"
 
good points joevice, but virtually everyone says the same thing about his or her favorite genre. it was recently suggested to me that i listen to some christian stuff. ain't happenin. i dont like it. that person may think it's the shit and they'd be right - in their own little world, just like i think opeth are the shit in my own little world. granted, there exists some legitimate criticism of music and i'm sure we' all agree that, say, Britney Spears is a fucking joke. yet, we're not gonna change the minds of any Britney fans by saying so.
I think the question was: do we support the use of Street Teams for Opeth. I think the answer is a resounding "NO". Opeth appear quite content. They are not a corporation nor do they seem to aspire to be one. The idea of a Street Team sounds terribly childish (as opposed to a legitimate advertising campaign) and is more appropriate for people who are more interested in an image rather than a musical composition. I would guess that an extremely large percentage of Opeth fans actually play an instrument whereas System of a Down (et al) fans watch endless hours of MTV.
 
dorian gray said:
good points joevice, but virtually everyone says the same thing about his or her favorite genre. it was recently suggested to me that i listen to some christian stuff. ain't happenin. i dont like it. that person may think it's the shit and they'd be right - in their own little world, just like i think opeth are the shit in my own little world. granted, there exists some legitimate criticism of music and i'm sure we' all agree that, say, Britney Spears is a fucking joke. yet, we're not gonna change the minds of any Britney fans by saying so.
I think the question was: do we support the use of Street Teams for Opeth. I think the answer is a resounding "NO". Opeth appear quite content. They are not a corporation nor do they seem to aspire to be one. The idea of a Street Team sounds terribly childish (as opposed to a legitimate advertising campaign) and is more appropriate for people who are more interested in an image rather than a musical composition. I would guess that an extremely large percentage of Opeth fans actually play an instrument whereas System of a Down (et al) fans watch endless hours of MTV.


agreed...opeth do appear quite content, and promoting them to a higher recognition level would not be for them, it would be so people could have the opportunity to hear the music...and i'm sure opeth wouldn't mind, as long as the fans truly appreciated the music, and weren't in it because its a new trend...which is why opeth's fanbase is so solid. everyone of us loves this music, and if we have the money, WILL buy the album and WILL drive hours to see them in concert...no questions asked.

a lot of mainstream stuff does not have that because most mainstream stuff is trendy. and its not the music's fault, its the fans' fault. opeth is a type of band where their hard to get into unless you truly appreciate the music. they are not commercially vulnerable because their music isn't an easy listen. this is where a street team for opeth can be a problem. like many have mentioned, word of mouth, and personal one on one promotion is the best. but people seem to be bashing this guy because of his "teeny-bopping" idea of a street team...street team=mainstream=bad...right? if he wouldn't have called it a street team, and not mentioned system of a down...then their might not be as negative of a reaction...that's sad.
 
haha yeah that wouldnt work for me, any Opeth stuff i could get my hands on i would be keeping, not giving to some unappreciative assholes.
 
dorian gray said:
good points joevice, but virtually everyone says the same thing about his or her favorite genre. it was recently suggested to me that i listen to some christian stuff. ain't happenin. i dont like it. that person may think it's the shit and they'd be right - in their own little world, just like i think opeth are the shit in my own little world. granted, there exists some legitimate criticism of music and i'm sure we' all agree that, say, Britney Spears is a fucking joke. yet, we're not gonna change the minds of any Britney fans by saying so.
I think the question was: do we support the use of Street Teams for Opeth. I think the answer is a resounding "NO". Opeth appear quite content. They are not a corporation nor do they seem to aspire to be one. The idea of a Street Team sounds terribly childish (as opposed to a legitimate advertising campaign) and is more appropriate for people who are more interested in an image rather than a musical composition. I would guess that an extremely large percentage of Opeth fans actually play an instrument whereas System of a Down (et al) fans watch endless hours of MTV.

Your insight on the subject impresses me. I agree entirely.
 
dorian gray said:
I think the question was: do we support the use of Street Teams for Opeth. I think the answer is a resounding "NO". Opeth appear quite content. They are not a corporation nor do they seem to aspire to be one. The idea of a Street Team sounds terribly childish (as opposed to a legitimate advertising campaign) and is more appropriate for people who are more interested in an image rather than a musical composition. I would guess that an extremely large percentage of Opeth fans actually play an instrument whereas System of a Down (et al) fans watch endless hours of MTV.

these are all true stereotypes...i agree with you. but, i also think it is sad that music has to be categorized like this. that is my point.
 
bangadrian said:
i completely do not understand the hate on system of a down. it seems like people just assume they are bad without really listening, simply because they fall under the umbrella of "mainstream". but let's face it -- they're not THAT popular. toxicity had like, 2 hit singles that got played on rock stations (but not usually on pop stations)... and that's about it. they happen to be a highly creative band -- they experimented with their music, instead of just cloning what was already popular. soad is one of the few mainstream bands i can listen to and think "wow, that's pretty fuckin fresh". i don't think they really have much in common with all the other nu-metal clones out there, other than some superficial elements of their sound, like down-tuning and groove-oriented riffs.

you all think you're being intelligent by instantly hating the mainstream, but i think it's pretty naive to make a judgment based on how much radio and mtv play they get (which isn't really that much anyway).

im a michael jackson, elton john, radiohead, coldplay, U2, Oasis, Beatles, etc fan....i dont dislike things BECAUSE of being mainstream...simply just because they suck. System of a down has lame guitar lines, maybe the worst vocals ive heard in the last 5 years, uninteresting and fairly predictable compositions...and last but not least...some of the most annoying fan base this side of linkin park.

i recommend you keep listening to your vast king crimson collection instead. ;)
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
. System of a down has lame guitar lines, maybe the worst vocals ive heard in the last 5 years, uninteresting and fairly predictable compositions...and last but not least...some of the most annoying fan base this side of linkin park.
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There isn't a band alive that is as horrendous to my ears as Syndrome of a Down.
 
JoeVice said:
but people seem to be bashing this guy because of his "teeny-bopping" idea of a street team...street team=mainstream=bad...right? if he wouldn't have called it a street team, and not mentioned system of a down...then their might not be as negative of a reaction...that's sad.
i think you have good insight here and i agree with you. yet, he *did* promote it as such and should expect such criticisms......
*see ninefeet's post*