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doesn't sound all that bad... i have heard much worse. i assume your first mistake is telling her the recording sucks.
not everyone can take constructive criticism. then again, there was nothing constructive about your criticism... it was just criticism.
but i guess everyone's a critic.
edit: i didn't realize the person you spoke with was a friend and not the musician...
my mistake!
It was followed with objective criticism to make my point actually, pointing out precise parts of the mix that objectively suck on a technical (not even artistical) point of view.
@ermz : I don't think so. Also, what I find awful, is that there is absolutely no editing. I mean, not talking about our metalhead's crazy editing, but no cut of the guitar noises between played parts for example. The regular expected editing from someone you pay to produce an album. Also, the guitar is centered and the bass stereo, the drums are buried in the mix (on their video I saw the AE used a strange way of miking up the drumset, as I'm not an expert at all I don't know, but he put only 2 or 3 mikes, not even in a regular XY setup, not sure.
I actually thought they produced the sound on the video themselves (the guitars sounded line6 to me actually at first), and I told her "i hope your friends didn't pay for the result, otherwise they should clearly change the studio to find a btter one for the same price". I was actually trying to help by telling my friend they should tell them next time to search a better studio, because they were objectively losing money with this one, and I was telling that for a fact, cause I've been into production as a hobby for years with you guys on this board.
They are not THAT bad actually, excepted the guitarist who is really terrible imo, the bassist could sound good actually if she played a little harder, same for the drummer although he needs improvement, and the singer could do a good job if she worked on her technique a little more, but I'm surprised at how someone could be going to such a studio. I clearly see here a big "wow" factor with that crazy amount of gear, 36 or 48 tracks console, full racks of gear, a few stacks of amps, and still, a terrible result that anyone here who has been into producing for a few years could beat on his computer and a few quality plugins. I'm not really going for a studio vs bedroom producer, I'm more talking about quality/price. What bugs me up is that people are totally not aware of that, and the simple fact they are recording in a studio is instant assurance in their head of a good result. They don't understand it, as much as music, relies on a big amount of artistic sense and therefore depends a crazy lot more on who is doing it and not on what (the gear) is doing it.
The point of the thread is : don't ever try to explain that to someone who knows nothing about music production unless there is a good reason to, cause you're gonna lose : you don't have a studio and haven't followed a 3 years course until a diploma, so you "don't know what you're talking about".
