Hi - I'm in the awkward situation of realizing (after long time and annoyance) that my beloved Peavey 6505+ 112 uses a buffer in the FX loop which compromises my tone (Compressed dynamics, raised highs, lowered mids and low-mids), much like the Valveking.
Now this leaves me with three scenarios/options, each with their problems and possible solutions.
1) Use the amp with noise gate (decimator g-string) in FX loop = get compromised tone
2) Don't use noise gate in FX Loop = get preamp noise on recordings
3) Try to sell 6505+ 112 = Buy new/different amp
I use a direct signal from the Koch Loadbox 2 connected to the amp, so solutions could be
1a) Use various computer-techniques to tweak the signal to something useful
1b) Figure out schematics, implement work-around for a more neutral loop
2a) Record clean track with preamp noise only, phase invert it against guitar-recording
2b) Use various noise-reduction software
3a) Wait for Bugera 6262 Infinium to get out, retube = 449 euro
3b) Buy Peavey 6505+ = 1390 euro
3c) Buy used Peavey 6505+ = 1070 euro
3d) Buy alternative amp?
As the title gives away, I'm mostly thrilled about the b1) Phase Inversion technique, but can't test it until tomorrow.
My guess is, it wont work very well - Different sounds occupy same frequencies, thus the phase inversion will cancel out more than just the noise?
1b) Is doable, but quite expensive too
3b) and 3c) is ofc any purist's real answer, but seriously, 1000 euro is a lot of cash, if a simple phase inversion + maybe a few different techniques will solve it..
Also, 3bc) Might overpower the Loadbox since it's only 120watt RMS as well.
If the only option is to spent money on a new amp - Should I consider looking elsewhere? - I do very much like the 6505 tone, but is it worth it for direct recording + impulses. I'm not gonna use it for live performance anytime soon.
Kind Regards - Christian
Now this leaves me with three scenarios/options, each with their problems and possible solutions.
1) Use the amp with noise gate (decimator g-string) in FX loop = get compromised tone
2) Don't use noise gate in FX Loop = get preamp noise on recordings
3) Try to sell 6505+ 112 = Buy new/different amp
I use a direct signal from the Koch Loadbox 2 connected to the amp, so solutions could be
1a) Use various computer-techniques to tweak the signal to something useful
1b) Figure out schematics, implement work-around for a more neutral loop
2a) Record clean track with preamp noise only, phase invert it against guitar-recording
2b) Use various noise-reduction software
3a) Wait for Bugera 6262 Infinium to get out, retube = 449 euro
3b) Buy Peavey 6505+ = 1390 euro
3c) Buy used Peavey 6505+ = 1070 euro
3d) Buy alternative amp?
As the title gives away, I'm mostly thrilled about the b1) Phase Inversion technique, but can't test it until tomorrow.
My guess is, it wont work very well - Different sounds occupy same frequencies, thus the phase inversion will cancel out more than just the noise?
1b) Is doable, but quite expensive too
3b) and 3c) is ofc any purist's real answer, but seriously, 1000 euro is a lot of cash, if a simple phase inversion + maybe a few different techniques will solve it..
Also, 3bc) Might overpower the Loadbox since it's only 120watt RMS as well.
If the only option is to spent money on a new amp - Should I consider looking elsewhere? - I do very much like the 6505 tone, but is it worth it for direct recording + impulses. I'm not gonna use it for live performance anytime soon.
Kind Regards - Christian